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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: journalctl very slow
On 11/01/2013 01:03 PM, Cristian Rodríguez pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
El 01/11/13 13:03, Archie Cobbs escribió:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Yamaban <foerster@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
But, yes, clear upstream trouble, that is: ignored by those in charge,
sounds of '... rotating media are a dying type ...' where made, when
asked on the topic during a Linux conf earlier this year.

Do not hope for a solution from the systemd / journald side, install
a full 'traditional' syslog.

Maybe this should be the openSUSE default.

I for one am very bothered by the way systemd has made logging more
opaque and cumbersome. Logs are like bread and water to sysadmins.

If you install a traditional syslog implementation there will be no
difference.. also people keep repeating "opaqueness and cumbersomeness"
but never care to elaborate exactly what they mean in a detailed form
and compared to what.

That said, embedded developers from Samsung and Intel do care about this
slowness and are working on it (much better approach than whining and
complaining I must add)

It has become the means of complaining since the elitist devs won't bother to look at bug reports without just marking them as "Won't Fix" or "to be fixed in a future version (AKA no one knows when)". People have been complaining about logging for a long time and now we're told "too bad, we don't care about sysadmins".

Ken Schneider
SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998

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