On 07/04/2013 04:01 AM, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
On 4 July 2013 08:34, Sascha Peilicke
wrote: On 07/03/2013 05:02 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Wednesday 2013-07-03 16:45, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Looks like we went from one extreme (submit requests hanging around for months) to the other. It happened now for the second time in two days that I see a submit request accepted within a few hours that was [...] b) not accepted nor acknowledged by the actual package maintainer[. ...] Please, if you are project maintainer but not package maintainer give the actual maintainer a chance to review what arbitrary people do to their package. [...] Can we find a sensible middle way please?
Well, Robert Schweikert's "maintainer model clean up" http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2012-10/msg00282.html should help here, albeit not much has resulted from the proposal.
Well, maybe not in this case. In general we cleaned up heavily. Still I somewhat agree that it didn't help raising awareness as we hoped it would.
I actually though it was never implemented!
Anyway, we still have the problem of OBS telling somebody is a maintainer when he obviously isn't.
Well, OBS can only show the information it has and I suspect I would not be the only one opposed to some "automated maintainer setting". While I am a proponent of contribution and activity data collection, I believe action based on data should be taken by people based on interaction. Anyway, that's a different topic.
multimedia:libs/audiofile has as *only* maintainer sbrabec. He created the package 4 years ago. Since then there have been 30 commits, and not a single one from him.
One of the ideas behind the maintainer proposal was that project maintainers could help find non-active package maintainers and help to either encourage those individuals to step back into the project or help find a new maintainer for the package that is more active.
namtrac sometimes has accepted requests for some of my packages too fast. I could complain about that. But then he would stop doing it, and I would start complaining because my requests to audiofile always take one month to get accepted.
If you have particular interest in a package and are willing to maintain it you can always request to be a maintainer/co-maintainer on a given package.
The first thing is to clear the mess. Then we will be able to argue about a meaningful policy.
At the project level much of the clean up has occurred. On the package level this has not been done as we simply have too many packages to "clean up" manually. Automation is possible and I have a script to look at packages. The problem is that OBS currently lacks the API to get the data in an efficient way. There is a feature request to address this missing API. Scripting package maintainer data collection currently implies that we have to make a request fro every single package in Factory. This puts significant strain on the back end and leads to intermittent failures, thus the data is compromised. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org