Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Monday 2013-01-14 05:28, Linda Walsh wrote:
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
Glibc introduced a new "sys_nerr@GLIBC_2.12" (per `readelf -s`) for glibc-2.12 [shipped in openSUSE 12.1], so this 7-line example program, by way of the distro doing a recompile every distro release, suddenly starts requiring glibc-2.12 even though glibc-2.4 would have been fine as well.
It sounds like you are saying that most of these changes, in this case come from upstream. Hmmm....
All changes come from upstream.
They maintain the rpm build scripts and decide what to put in the rpm packages and what to no longer distribute? I know upstream fixed parallel sort, but that wasn't adopted as the default in OS. Many times I find it easier to build the package as released by the maintainers than build the rpm. Case in point. I just downloaded the glibc distribution (2.17). It configured and built the first time -- while the srpms for 2.14 and 2.15 don't due to unpackaged files being left over in the build tree. Ever since Suse stopped building on their own machines and require a sterile environment, they get farther away from real systems -- but the distributions of the software is meant to be built in a variety of "hostile" environments ;-)....
Oh ****. Dissolution of steering committee for standard C library, replaced by whoever happens to be doing development on glibc at the time. Sounds like a recipe for total chaos.
What an uninformed claim. This is pure panic making.
Interesting that others made similar comments though a bit more low key on the 2nd of the pages you quoted.... It is a recipe for total chaos -- whether or not it will happen depends on the bakers involved. They might be very restrained. But as you note, there has been an uptick in changes during the time of the 12.x series, so is it that 'uninformed'? Note, I may be guilty of a bit of hyperbole at times, but sometimes, I'm guilty of understatement as well.. ;-/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org