Hello listmates.... I know that most likely I will be causing another flamewar on this mailinglist, but I hope that we can keep the discussion to facts and to the point. As the subject already indicates I would like to know what the openSUSE community plan is for PackageKit. At this moment we have version 0.7.4 in Factory, despite that upstream already delivered version 0.8.5. I have tried to package 0.8.5, but it seems that in this version the zypp backend is not maintained ( My assumption here is that openSUSE did the maintainance for this part as that libzypp is only used by openSUSE). Based on the above status and also seeing discussions on the opensuse-kde ml regarding how Apper is working as an update notifier, I have the feeling that we as a community should take a decision. At this moment I don't see anything that is offered as a small package update notifier (nor on KDE nor on GNOME side) that works directly with zypper or with yast. Both desktops have been using PackageKit for this (or tools based using PackageKit), but it seems that PackageKit is not really supported by our zypp/YaST community. So the question is will we keep PackageKit in our openSUSE distro or not ? If yes, then the zypp/YaST community should have a look at the latest version and make the zypp backend build and work again. If not, do we have alternatives that we can offer to the users as a small systray utility that notifies them when updates are available ? Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org