Hi, On Wed, Oct 31, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
That still doesnt mean you can remove the files. what about people who want to keep using sysvinit+xinetd? we just drop their support files because you dont need it anymore?
Do you really expect the systemd guys to care about such users?
Funnily ... the rsync package e.g. does not even require xinetd! But as a sysvinit user i get forced to install systemd just for using rsync.
It is even worse! If you want to use NFS mounts, you are already forced into systemd madness: Sirius:/etc/init.d # insserv rpcbind insserv: Note: sysvinit service rpcbind is shadowed by systemd rpcbind.service, Forwarding request to '/bin/systemctl --no-reload enable rpcbind.service'. ln -s '/lib/systemd/system/rpcbind.service' '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/rpcbind.service' ln -s '/lib/systemd/system/rpcbind.socket' '/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/rpcbind.socket' insserv: Forward service request to systemctl returned error status : 512 Sirius:/etc/init.d # rpm -e systemd-44-10.1.1.x86_64 error: Failed dependencies: libsystemd-daemon.so.0()(64bit) is needed by (installed) rpcbind-0.2.0_git201103171419-3.1.3.x86_64 libsystemd-daemon.so.0(LIBSYSTEMD_DAEMON_31)(64bit) is needed by (installed) rpcbind-0.2.0_git201103171419-3.1.3.x86_64 systemd is needed by (installed) systemd-presets-branding-basedonopensuse-12.2-3.7.1.x86_64 systemd is needed by (installed) mkinitrd-2.7.1-62.6.1.x86_64 systemd is needed by (installed) cronie-1.4.8-37.2.3.x86_64 systemd is needed by (installed) rpcbind-0.2.0_git201103171419-3.1.3.x86_64 systemd is needed by (installed) openssh-6.0p1-2.3.3.x86_64 systemd >= 44 is needed by (installed) plymouth-0.8.6.1-1.15.1.x86_64 systemd is needed by (installed) ConsoleKit-0.4.5-12.1.2.x86_64 systemd is needed by (installed) yast2-installation-2.22.10-1.1.4.noarch systemd is needed by (installed) postfix-2.8.11-2.6.1.x86_64 I have been told that "insserv returning error(!) status 512 actually means that it was successfull and might even work", but after the clear statement "you cannot uninstall systemd" I finally gave up.
maybe we should rip out that requires so we dont force packages on people?
Well, right now I'm in the process of switching my private machines to some *BSD variant, since running some wannabe-Windows clone is not interesting for me. It is ironic that tomorrow it is exactly 20 years that I started using Linux :/ R.I.P.
darix
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