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Re: [opensuse-factory] repository priorities with Tumbleweed
On 2012/06/23 09:57 (GMT+0200) DenverD composed:

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2012/06/22 12:03 (GMT+0100) Cristian Morales Vega composed:

the meaning of priorities is the one you would expect. Set them as the
common sense tells you to.

Common only to those who think upside down or are a sports nut. For most
people higher = more = bigger, and 50 is not higher than 99. Priority
doesn't equate to blue, red& yellow like in an Olympic event, dog show
or pie eating contest. Miami won the league trophy because it had a
bigger number of points. Zero equates to losing out to non-zero. 98
losing to 99 is inane.

when picking your selection for lunch from a buffet, what is your first
priority? actual quality _or_ appearance of the product?

Neither. I don't eat in restaurants. They don't provide labels telling what besides the obvious is in the food, forcing me to assume it's more manufactured than natural. :-)

of those two, which is first priority, and which is second?

Your restaurant is like the Olympics, pie eating and dog show. First place is a won, a historical concept, past tense, not a goal or ongoing or future activity.

which of those would be numbered "1st", and the other "2nd"?

I don't relate numbers to priorities, only high or low. When numbers must be attached, I think bigger/more/higher, not 0 or 1 = most. Only when something is at the top of a columnar list can I equate 1 to highest, but on a list, the numbers are orthogonal. High/low, position is what's relevant. Top priority is most, no number needed.

if your 99th priority were a LARGE portion, would that be more important
than your first and second priorities and so you always would have a
very large serving of ugly, low quality food to munch on?

Were I considering it, it would be a go/no go, high/low thing, not requiring of numeric nomenclature.

so, [with reference to your note above] in pulling software from the
98th priority repo is not "losing to 99" it is winning--and the 50th
priority _is_ a higher priority than the 99th...

Attaching 0 or 1 to maximum is illogical. 0 is none/nothing/void/null, lowest priority. Next higher would be 1, then 2, then 3.... I'd rather have $100 than $1, because $100 is more.

Where better to see the logical conflict than Bugzilla. Near the bottom are two importance lists side-by-side, priority, and severity. The left one puts lowest number but highest priority at the top of the list, while the right one puts most severe at the top.

The gist is that common sense WRT priority labeling isn't clear cut sense like Vega, and the zypper designers, apparently think or thought.
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata ***
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