On 28/05/12 00:57, Larry Finger wrote:
On 05/27/2012 02:11 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
One cannot but ask, after all the years of being hassle-free, why the current problems with building the Live CDs?
I am not sure that the Live CDs have been hassle free!
The House of Cards called openSUSE about to collapse in the foreseeable future?
For the Doom-and-Gloom crowd, the answer is "perhaps".
No "Doom and Gloom" crowd - just some people who have the Boy Scout motto of "Be Prepared" in mind :-) .
As I see it, there have been many problems. Perhaps there is an overall shortage of people to do the required tasks, and something may have to be dropped.
I think that this has become quite obvious to anyone who is capable of reading "between the lines". (And yet I misinterpreted a post by Stephan about a new project he started thinking that it was something he stated in a moment of coming up with "a funny". Eh, I was wrong it appears and got "roasted" for it :-) . Mea culpa :-( .)
There were also problems with the backend storage system and the entire build system that happened at a critical time. The boot system of the Live CDs is different than the other products, and it is difficult to debug. After working with building my own Live CDs for 5 days, I have learned a lot, but I still can do little more than report the symptoms to Coolo. Fixing anything will require a lot more knowledge.
I have wished for a very long time that I had the knowledge and ability to be able to handle programming. But I don't. If I did have this aptitude I would trying to give assistance.
The specific problem with the Live CDs was related to the change in /usr that is part of 12.2.
Sounds strange. No real analysis of potential consequences of such a course of action? A spur of the moment decision by someone without any peer review perhaps - something akin to how Tumbleweed got off the ground? Really immaterial now as the damage has already been done from what you state.
I have no idea why no new ones have been built.
Because no one has the knowledge or has control over, or can direct the direction of, what should be done re the project?
Both Gnome and KDE versions build here just fine.
At least this is a blessing and at least there is someone who has the ability and the knowledge to keep the Live CDs going. A couple of weeks ago I was going to give my doctor a copy of a Live KDE CD because his Windows system was "compromised" but stopped myself from doing so because I didn't want to feel like a jerk giving a person something which required one to be a geek to try and get the CD to even boot properly. Enviously, because of my lack of ability, I wish you all the very best in getting the CDs to work as they used to :-) . Kind regards, Basil -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org