Hi! I submitted this request to KDE:Release:Factory : https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/114732 The only change it makes is changing the dependecy on kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd soft to make KDE4 installable along with the package kdebase3-ksysguardd needed for KDE3. But the request was rejected by Will with the following comment: === kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd should be used by KDE 3 too. It is maintained, backwards-compatible with KDE 3 clients and does not have any external dependencies. Due to a packaging error, ksysguard is currently in the kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd package but I will get this removed now. === But this is NOT true! KDE3 is not compatible with KDE4's ksysguardd, and the process table in system monitor is not displayed properly when KDE4's ksysguardd is running. At the same time, both KDE4 and KDE3 work well with KDE3's ksysguardd. Now Will said that he will remove kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd package and hard-code ksysguardd into kdebase4-workspace. This will make impossible to normally use KDE3's process table (system monitor) when KDE4 is installed. I invite Will and others to discuss this issue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org