On Friday 30 March 2012 14:08:22 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Friday 30 March 2012 13:35:20 Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Or, in Dolphin, hit F11 and get the information sidebar [also view => panels => information]. However, I think what Freek is missing is the pop-up image that appeared whenever the cursor was over a file; F11 is the nearest you get to that now.
The two mentioned examples are just cosmetic in my eyes, not "essential" facilities missing and apparently they even can be overcome.
I got the impression that something essential is missing, so I challenge you to come with such an example.
I really do not want to support this flame war or discussion actually.
But if this could be accepted calmly, KDE4 is not usable for me due to several reasons.
- Huge visual artefacts,
I've seen this at some point too, and see it frequently on nvidia proprietary drivers. Those need to get fixed, yes...
- Removed spatial mode from file manager, I already mentioned. The file manager part has also other disadvantages such as huge gaps between icons. The bothe Dolphin and Konq use the same part. Also ugly file picker dialogs.
I greatly prefer the file picker in KDElibs 4, but then again, that's a matter of taste. The big gaps between icons is surely solved in Dolphin 2.0, with that filemanager also being faster than Konqi in KDE 3 and having cool features like git/svn/bazaar integration, previews-on-folders, tagging, rating, improved search etcetera. So while it might not do one or two things konqi did, it does a lot konqi doesn't do in KDE 3. Let's acknowledge that too...
"I don't like how it looks"
I like the default style for the panel with Oxygen, imho sc4 looks light years better than the KDE 3 series did. But that's a matter of taste.
- Impossibility to remove the enema icon without removing the desktop icons or using a third-party plasmoid. This is complicated by the fact that any plasmoid can crash the whole desktop.
Not true, only C++ plasmoids can. Many of them are not C++ anymore and the existing ones are being ported to QML so this won't be an issue for long.
- Regular Plasma crashes in unpredictable circumstances.
...and kicker never crashed. Wait... Plasma used to be unstable, but these days it's better than Kicker and KDesktop. And a lot more flexible.
- Reportedly broken kmail in KDE 4.8 so that even filtering on POP accounts does not work.
KMail is quite horrible atm, yes. I do like the fact that I can suddenly find my mails a lot easier, however - alt-F2 "words". And there are a few features coming which I greatly look forward too - I saw Till Adam wrote a patch where KMail searches your mails for mail addresses and auto-completes not only from your addressbook but also from there. Those little things... :D
- Problems inherited from Qt4, such as not working Russian shortcuts https://bugreports.qt-project.org//browse/QTBUG-5314 or autocomplete forsing the letter's register.
Aw...
....and so on and so on.
I agree with the performance issues. Most of the rest is mostly a matter of exchanging one bug for the other - the former just might be more familiar and you're used to working around it. This situation is not so dis-similar from the GNOME Shell introduction, although that forces you to learn a much more different new way of working and is still a bit less mature. But it'll never have ALL the features GNOME 2 had - yet it is already better in many area's. At some point you just have to make the jump, losing a handful of small things for the benefit of having all those others...