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Re: [opensuse-factory] [RFC DRAFT] Phasing out sysvinit
  • From: "Bernhard M. Wiedemann" <bernhardout@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:41:40 +0100
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Am 16.12.2011 22:37, schrieb Cristian Rodríguez:

Supporting 2 different init systems comes with a large increase of
possible usecases and scenarios that are very difficult to support
correctly, specially in the long term.

This RFC proposes steps to permanently phase out sysvinit from
future openSUSE releases.

Phase 0

- Fix all *currently* outstanding bugs of systemd tracks several
systemd-related bugs in the "Depends On" section
and there are currently 32 open bugs at:

note that this step only deals with problems in systemd itself, not
in service files installed by other packages, udev, kernel,
networkmanager or whatever other thing.

We need to address bugs in other components (that did not occur with
sysvinit) to avoid regressions.

- Determine which services currently lack of native systemd units.

As I understood it, native unit files are not needed for the goal of
fully switching to systemd and dropping sysvinit - so this step (and
all other steps about /etc/init.d/ replacement) should be optional.


Add documentation, HowTos etc. for developers and users of systemd and
its service files so that they can tweak and extend their system as
easily as with sysvinit.
This might be inherently hard, because some things that used to be in
easily changeable /etc/init.d/boot.* scripts were hardcoded into
systemd's C code.

- test, test, test.

- remove sysvinit and all the relevant bootloader options and from
the documentation.

This step will ideally still be some years ahead, so that as many
use-cases as possible will be known to work with systemd. People don't
like being forced into something that does not work properly.

-- ?????

-- Profit. :-)

Bernhard M.
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