Not quite that bad, but way too many for an RC2. Many KDE base packages apparently depend on bootsplash, many more than in previous KDE releases, which, along with splashy, I taboo on every install. Grub failed to finish installing. I booted 11.4 and finished it myself with the Grub shell. Menu.lst had two copies of the default stanza, non-identical, besides a useless HD stanza and two failsafes. Startx as root failed even after fixing permissions.local and doing 'SuSEconfig --module permissions'. How it failed I couldn't tell. It appeared the default X session was icewm, and it gave some wacko lack of space error, then shut down after I clicked OK, the only thing on the screen to click. AllowRootLogin=true in kdmrc was apparently ignored (once it could be found squirreled away somewhere in the /usr rats nest instead of logically where config files belong in /etc), so getting into KDE via runlevel 5 was initially impossible, since I create no users on test systems, and even when not test systems I only create users after base installation is complete in order to assign user and group IDs appropriately to match all the other installed distros on the system. Too many failed deps to remember, most probably based upon taboo of *kde*branding-openSUSE and *splash*. After initial installation cleanup, I installed the upstream KDE branding packages & other KDE necessaries (e.g. kwin, kdebase4-workspace, kdebase4-session & more) that the taboos prevented the installer from installing. That made startx get me into KDE. It also got root to be able to log into KDE from KDM. 2nd thing I did was go into systemsettings to disable effects. When done, I clicked apply, then the confirmation popup appeared. I clicked Accept, and there it hung. The panel scrambled at the same time, and nowhere I clicked there did anything for several minutes. Nepomuk cannot be made to not pop up errors on session start, and can't be turned off in systemsettings due to something or other making (unwanted Nepomuk) installation incomplete. i915 chipset Y2logs http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/121/gx280-121rc2.tgz Xorg.0.log from before disabling compositing via xorg.conf.d/ http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/121/xorg.0.log.old-gx28b121rc2 On the bright side: I'd never previously got X to work at all on this GeForce 8600GT rev 03 (dual) DVI-only system, nothing but blackscreen no matter what I tried. Nouveau worked right off the bat this time. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org