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Re: [opensuse-factory] The road to systemd for openSUSE 12.1
Am 20.06.2011 11:17, schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 20 June 2011 10:40:26 Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 07:43:12PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
I'd like to know what the big vendors are thinking about this.
Introducing risks due lazy/snooty systemd developers can not be
a reason to ignore well-founded and common rules how to handle
big severs.

Most of the 'lazy/snooty systemd developers' work for the biggest
vendors. :)

Does this mean that IBM will enforce that /usr and
other useful partitions will be only avaiable by
using initramfs?

Since when does IBM ship openSUSE?

And actually most of the requests what systemd should do come from these
vendors and their customers. We declined more requests form them than we
have implemented so far.

Defer would be OK, but declined is not that what will
help to become systemd accepted as replacement on top
of most big servers.

openSUSE doesn't run on big servers so what is the issue? It might be an
issue
for SLES but that's not expected for another two years and I'm sure SUSE can
solve that issue if they want to.

Please keep the openSUSE and SUSE discussions separate.

Not exactly sure what you mean by big servers but openSUSE is definitely
running on my servers. And I at least cannot remember that we decided in
the openSUSE project to dump the usage of openSUSE for servers. Without
having very much experience (I have to admit) with systemd it sounds
like it is very much designed for the desktop.

As I said several times now it might be possible that systemd serves us
well. But I don't like how this "discussion" goes.


Wolfgang
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