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Re: [opensuse-factory] tumbleweed wants to downgrade 8 packages?
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 04:15:41PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:55:54AM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

I just initiated a "zypper dup --from Tumbleweed" and I get 8 packages
it wants to download.

The following packages are going to be downgraded:
  libldb0 libtalloc2 libtalloc2-32bit libtdb1 libtdb1-32bit libtevent0
virtualbox virtualbox-qt

looking at virtualbox as a specific example, it looks like the vanilla
11.4 version is indeed newer.

sudo zypper se -s virtualbox | grep " virtualbox "
i | virtualbox                             | package    | 4.0.4-1.2.3
             | x86_64 | openSUSE-11.4 OSS
v | virtualbox                             | package    | 4.0.4-1.2
             | x86_64 | Tumbleweed
v | virtualbox                             | package    | 4.0.4-1.2.3
             | i586   | openSUSE-11.4 OSS
v | virtualbox                             | package    | 4.0.4-1.2
             | i586   | Tumbleweed
  | virtualbox                             | srcpackage | 4.0.4-1.2
             | noarch | Tumbleweed

Is there a problem with Tumbleweed?  I thought it should always have
newer packages than OSS.

It "should" normally, but for virtualbox, I had to link to the current
version in the tree, because our kernel updated, and you do want to be
able to run the virtualbox kmp in our new kernel, right?

If you look close, the minor (i.e. build) number should just be smaller
for virtualbox, not the version number, right?  So all should be fine,
the package was just rebuilt for the Tumbleweed repo (i.e. against the
newer kernel)

If not, let me know and I'll see what happened, as I did link to the
openSUSE:Factory version of virtualbox, should I have grabbed a
different one instead?


greg k-h

Well, I'm not sure. Look at libtdb1 (zypper se -s libtdb1)

For the main 11.4 OSS repo it's 1.2.1-2.17.1

For tumbleweed it's 1.2.1-2.1

I don't know the numbering nomenclature well enough to be sure, but
that looks to me like tumbleweed is behind.

It's not.

If these are actually builds from the same source, it would be nice if
zypper could be taught not to call them downgrades, but I'm not sure
that's feasible.

They are being built from the same source. This is the reason that I'm
not building the whole distro as "tumbleweed", because your whole repo
would have been "downgraded".

Normally I don't add packages into Tumbleweed if the version hasn't
incremented, as it didn't make sense. But for this package, as
described above, it did.

I agree it's not "pretty" to see downgrades, but if you have been
watching, even the main openSUSE:11.4 has had version downgrades a few
times with the updates getting things correct in the beginning of the
release cycle, so it isn't unheard of.


greg k-h
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