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Re: [opensuse-factory] should Office pattern NOT install openoffice?
  • From: Karsten König <remur@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:24:54 +0200
  • Message-id: <201003291924.54997.remur@xxxxxxx>
Am Montag, 29. März 2010 20:09:28 schrieb Andrea Florio:
let me try to explain it better...
a user, open yast and select "office pattern"
it expect to install office applications that fit his DE.
actually that pattern always install OO.o

imho, it should work as following

the user select "office pattern",
if DE = kde --> patterns-openSUSE-kde_office
if DE = gnome --> patterns-openSUSE-gnome_office
if DE = xfce --> patterns-openSUSE-xfce_office
if DE = lxde --> patterns-openSUSE-lxde_office

where of course, gnome and kde install OO.o and lxde (and maybe even
xfce) will install lighter solutions like abiword,gnumeric ecc

That should solve even "tipical user" problem, because they use usually
kde/gnome, but also fix all the other users that if use xfce/lxde of
course do not want the heavy OO.o

i hope is a little bit more clear now.

I understood it that way, but will you install that based on the current
running DE? because you can always install multiple DEs, so you can't querry
for that.
I think this will be confusing to people, let's say I used KDE before and now
install LXDE on another system I want "office" to be the same on both without

You can create a lightweight office pattern and/or use it for the live cd, but
adding such nonobvious behaviour to the office pattern is contraproductive.


Il 29/03/2010 19:34, James Mason ha scritto:
Well, I suppose this is an argument about whether we are (a)
integrating LXDE into openSUSE, or (b) integrating openSUSE into LXDE.

I'd have to argue the first. And since openSUSE uses

as the default office suite regardless of DE (we install by default
OO.o on KDE despite KOffice), I don't see why that would be different
for LXDE.

- James Mason 'bear454'

of course we are integrating LXDE into openSUSE, but is still true i
would like to provide a perfect integration, based to user wishes:

Best Regards
Andrea Florio

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Am Sonntag 28 März 2010 schrieb Andrea Florio:
Hi people,

as you know, i'm working on LXDE into 11.3

i noticed a strange thing with Office pattern.

if you install office pattern, it will install OO.o this is imho
wrong... in particular for xfce and lxde, that may want to use a
lighter solution (check lxde-office pattern). i think, that Office
pattern sould install "nothing" and call as "dependencie" $DE_office
pattern something like "imaging" pattern..

what do you think about it?

I think "office" is defined as OpenOffice for typical users. You can of
course still change it to be not that - lxde is not installed by
typical users, so I don't see a clash there.

Greetings, Stephan

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