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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Announcing important changes in the distribution
  • From: Rob OpenSuSE <rob.opensuse.linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:12:38 +0000
  • Message-id: <ce9d8ed60912120212v37fc102boe3ef470b919ea449@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2009/12/11 Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@xxxxxxx>:

 Even if you look at your ,
there is one item which clearly does not belong there (who with their
developer hat on cares about some BitTorrent client?) and one which is unsure

I added that. Does it actually make sense to do only a partial list
of removed packages, on grounds that "developer" don't care about some
If it does, then at minimum a link to the real complete list of
dropped packages is required.

How would you produce decent releases notes later if such changes
aren't noted? What about if some other developer does care about user
friendliness and reducing support questions, and wants to point users
to alternatives with something like 'cnf'.

Failure to communicate, is exactly what causes questions to get punted
to developer lists, because the technical savvy people who answer
questions on lists and in forums, cannot find the answers.

I disagree with either RFC or plain ANNOUNCEMENT. Such changes are neither
requests for comments nor just any announcement. If this is to work, then it
is necessary to include as many people doing development as possible and the
overhead of this should small. Imagine somebody taking care of a couple of
their packages but not really caring that much about openSUSE as a whole, for
whatever reason (even if that reason would be just too much work or limited
time, I think many of us here know mail folders with hundreds of unread

To be inclusive and encourage more developers you need to inform
outside so they become interested, and help mail filters and decent
mail clients to sort traffic relevancy.

There's "search" to lookup stuff, you need it even if you read every
single message, because most of them will be forgotten.

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