On 11/24/2009 01:51 PM, houghi wrote:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:04:48PM +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
2009/11/24 Cristian Rodríguez
: On 24/11/09 06:52, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
So why not stop complaining and start fixing? ;-)
Likely because complaining is easier than fixing ;-)
Actually, especially in the leafnode case, the energy spent complaining here would be enough to maintain the package for at least 3 years ;)
You have apparently no idea how bad I am at doing things like that. ;-)
And it is NOT about leafnode that I complain. It is about the whole process. You could even think about not only dropped packages, but packages that were never included.
The issue is that packages are dropped apparently because there are not enough developers or maintainers. Now how much I would love to be one, I must also understand my limitations.
So we should be going to the bottom and look as to why there are not enough and what we can do to change that. Do other distributions have the same issues and how do they solve it?
Almost each and every package is available under Debian. How do they do that and what can we learn from that, so we can implement that or even do it better.
If the answer is more package maintainers, the perhaps we must see how we can do that. What are the problems people face who are trying to become one. Perhaps the learning cruve is to big. Perhaps people are afraid of the resposability for one package. Perhaps there are other things.
houghi
I must chirp in on this thread. I'm primarily a hardware and embeded assembler person, I have a limited knowledge of linux c and c++ but I noticed a while back, on this list, that the blender package wasn't being maintained properly and ended up maintaining blender and am reading this list while waiting for the latest version to build properly. I also noticed that rosegarden needed a maintainer and took that overas well. Rosegarden uses lilypond and I've taken that package over. I have really learned a lot from research on the net, asking on the opensuse packaging, build-service and programming lists and the devel lists for the packages I maintain, including handling the bugs. Basically if I can do it there must be a lot of people out there in the community that can do it as well and help to turn openSUSE into a really good distro. It's not half as hard to maintain a package as you think and if anyone would like to be pointed in the right direction to where the knowledge is, I will be happy to help. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org