Cristian Morales Vega
I know a name as "Base:System" sound kind of serious. But that's the same for everything... the games repository has a lot of games, some of them are in the main repo and others aren't.
Then the names are missleading..
Reading http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2009-08/msg00120.html, he said: "And if Henning (?) likes to submit the package to openSUSE:Factory...". Again, openSUSE:Factory isn't the same than Base:System. The former has official support, the later doesn't.
Well penSUSE:Factory includes cdrkit which is (besides the fact that is cannot be legally distributed) unsupported - there are more than 100 well known bugs that prevent usability and there is no attempt to fix them. Cdrtools on the other side _is_ well supported - there are no known bugs/problem in the code.
It's just the way how the Build Service works. You can "link" a package from on repository to another. It's ok to link a package from Base:System to your home repository in case you want to "play" with it, once you are sure about your changes then you submit them to Base:System. Linking from a home project to Base:System is "wrong"... mostly cosmetical, but makes little sense for an "important" repository to link against a less important repository.
The way it is seems to be the way that was intended by the suse people. We had a related discussion 8 weeks ago and the current situation is a result of this discussion.
In the linked message it was already said that "Unfortunately we're after the feature freeze for 11.2", so if there is any option for cdrtools to be in openSUSE it will be for 11.3. If this is going to
What was the situation 8 weeks ago? Anyway: My impression is that starting to ship cdrtools again is a bug fix for software that is currently only shipped in a broken variant (fork). It also helps to get rid of a problem with the legality of cdrkit.
happen the first step is for someone to say (with an osc submitreq) "look, this is my package, I'm going to support it for 18 months. I request it to be included in the main repo."... and then the case will be studied (spec file quality, legal problems, etc.). You can ask Henning to do so. If he doesn't wants you can do it (perhaps if your offer to help with the support he will accept...). Anyway all this would be for 11.3. Meanwhile any 11.2 user will be able to use the package from Base:System. But right now it doesn't even compiles (error: "could not apply patch 'project.diff'"), so...
There is no need to apply any patch as this is supported software. If it does not compile, then there yould be a problem in the suse base system (e.g. in the include files). But if you look at the repository, you see that there are binaries. Finally: the whole problem is a social problem that was created by a hostile packager at Debian. We, the OSS community need to find a way to deal with such social problems and we need to be prepared for other hostile downstreams. We need to analyze how this hostile person could be successful at all and how to prevent similar things from happening in the future. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org