27 Aug
2009
27 Aug
'09
21:17
hi, first of all sorry Stephan and Halim I replied to you guys and not to the list On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 19:45 +0200, Halim Sahin wrote: >> There are other needed stuff to be done before starting such a >> channel. >> Opensuse needs support from developers who are able to understand and >> solve a11y related bugs. >> This is the most anoying problem currently. >> Read my firefox bug >> http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508611#c8 > > The biggest problem, from my viewpoint, has been a lack of coordination. > Are there people in Novell who work on a11y and understand it? Yes. > Stephen himself works on an a11y team in Provo. yes, correct - let's split the a11y issue in two parts 1. the application part - which interface makes an application accessible - which functions/methods are avaiable to collect information about controls, text, attributes etc. 2. the distribution and screenreader part - which configuration is the best for the end-user to use/install opensuse - how should we combine gnome and console screenreading - what is the best configurtion for speech - what is the best for braille - how can we combine speech and braille an aplications that supports/provides a11y interfaces does not make a distribution accessible if the screenreader is not configured correctly and/or the sound is not working the visually impaired user is not able to use the distribution - so it is not accessible a11y is very complex - it depends on many other packages not only on orca, sbl, espeak, speechd if there are changes in pulseaudio or alsa, gnome, udev, python etc. we have to check if this will work for the a11y configuration and we have to check this again and again and again and in most cases we have to modify/adjust our configuration and/or add improvements to the screenreaders OK, that was JFYI to get an very short overview of a11y let's come back to opensuse 11.2: in the latest orca the braille interface has changed - so my patch does no longer work with orca that's why I added brlapi.py to the sbl package many thanks to Halim Sahin - he was/is a very helpful contributor currently it is only available in my home repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/marco maybe, I'll have time this weekend to improve the package and check it in to factory I also updated the speechd package - the espeak driver was missing on 11.1 but I don't know if opensuse 11.2 will be accessible or not there are so many other little (but time consuming) things to do marco > When I first got involved with the community nearly 2 years ago and > focused on a11y, my biggest problem was that it took many many months to > figure out who was involved in a11y. I mean MANY months. And I'm > still even today, unsure if I have figured out who everyone is. > > As a matter of fact, Stephen and I stumbled across each other during an > IRC conversation when for a few weeks prior, neither of us knew about > the other's interest in a11y. > > So that's where Stephen's initiative comes from. > > Also we have created http://en.opensuse.org/Accessibility a while back, > which needs some love to get up to date again. > > > > -- > Bryen Yunashko > openSUSE Board Member > GNOME-A11y Team Member > www.bryen.com (Personal Blog) > www.planet-a11y.net (Feed aggregator of the Accessibility Community) > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org > ------------------------------------------------------------ Marco Skambraks SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg T: +49 (0) 911 74053-0 Fax: +49 (0) 911 74053-483 marco.skambraks@suse.com ------------------------------------------------------------ ** life is hard and then you die ** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org