On Tuesday 14 Jul 2009 00:23:38 Ben Kevan wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:47:42 -0700, Peter Nikolic
Everyone is open to give their opinion, but it's much better warranted when you give better or more examples, or compare how another distribution does the same process (but better).
Sounds like all your complaints are pretty much "linux" and not openSUSE in general. Errrrrr NO
Even one of the most popular distributions (that in Ubuntu) ships without codec support, ships with pulse audio (and the latest Alpha build is giving me a hard kernel stop). How about the problem with Arch linux when you try to install in VirtualBox? Err what is this fastination with running in virtual systems never have never will so never going to affect
Again, another kernel hard stop when udev starts to probe. Many of your initial complaints seemed to be geared towards staffing, which could be a more reasonable complaint, but you realize they are sponsored by Novell and we're in the middle of a massive global recession, right? Novell has share holders to please. I could care less about shareholders they pays their money they takes their chances , That is no excuse sorry to say
I agree the in its current state openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 3 isn't great (ie Compiz w/ Nvidia doesn't work well, and LVM booting is broken on / although it was fixed IN time for M3) you can't judge a final product (openSUSE 11.2) by its Alpha stage products (yes, I agree they should re-instate the real meanings and drift away from Milestones). The openSUSE line has the bleeding edge packages, and sometimes these packages aren't perfect and have some issues that need to be sorted out.
Well i have found in previous release cycles that if the major problems aint sorted by now they aint going away till the next release version ie 11.3 or whatever they deciede to call it
These are typically fixed, figured out before sending it to their SLED line. So if you're not looking for bleeding edge and supported stability you should consder trying the SLED line of products.
HUm so you are happy that all the crap is pointed at us then SLED and co reap the rewards these fixes should also be with us and if Novell wants to charge others for them so be it the work is done here in Opensuse therefore we should get the FULL benefits of it Sorry i am not a Corperate stoog i think they suck big time .
I do however wish we still had a KDE 3.5 choice on the DVD (but I realize that keeping them side by side would just cause developers to have less time to work on the stuff going foreward).. how many other distributions have KDE 3.5? Now think of their versioning in general, they are not targeted at bleeding edge. Kubuntu dropped KDE3 when KDE 4.0.0 came out pretty much.
Ben
The only reason i got caught up in this darn fiasco was that i had a drive die that was my main drive on this box taking all my 10.3 with it tried to reinstall to find the DVD was frelled tried 11.0 thanks but no thanks 11.1 similar slightly better 11.2 was showing promise on it's first release but since has crashed and burned so it looks like i have got to try rescue my dead 10.3 drive that right now the bios does not even see like wise the crappy SATA 1Tb multimedia drive Pete