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Re: [opensuse-factory] RPM vs 4.7.0
  • From: Pavol Rusnak <prusnak@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:08:28 +0200
  • Message-id: <4A5880BC.4000105@xxxxxxx>
Greg KH wrote:
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 04:53:39AM +0200, Pavol Rusnak wrote:

There is still rpm in Factory and upstream is already at 4.7.0.
Will we try to update the package for 11.2 to the newest version we can

What is in the newer releases that you need/want?

Currently we have 63 patches in the package. I hope most of them have
been upstreamed so we won't have to maintain them in-house anymore after
the update.

We are working closely with Fedora and RPM upstream to make packaging
easier. We are listing differences between the two distributions, to see
what is done differently (for most of tasks Fedora uses few lines of
shell script repeated in every .spec file, openSUSE use macros), so we
can pick the better solution and create the macro in upstream (or even
better get rid of the macro and scriptlet completely, see File triggers

Some of the interesting features:

* %doc(type) tag
- 4.8.0 will introduce this tag, so you can tag types of various
documentiation files
- when creating minimal RPM packages by not including the files marked
as %doc we also remove the license file, which is not right
- if we mark the licence file with %doc(license), we can very easily
do this task correctly

* BuildRoot enforced
- RPM now enforces BuildRoot and creates it correctly (the path from
spec is ignored)
- in SUSE we don't have to remove the buildroot in %install phase
(like Fedora does), but we still remove it in the %clean phase
- this update allows us to get rid of the %clean phase completely
in spec

* File triggers
- this feature allows to run certain scriptlets when some of
the paths have been touched
- this allows us to remove the following scriptlets from spec files,
for example:

* /sbin/ldconfig in %post and %postun
- trigger for /usr/lib{,64}/*.so.* to call /sbin/ldconfig

* %post %install_info and %post %install_info_delete
- trigger for %{_infodir}/*.info*

* update-mime-database in %post and %postun
- trigger for /usr/share/mime to call update-mime-database

* ...

This is just tip of the iceberg and it hurts the cross-distro
collaboration if we are stuck with RPM which is three or four versions

Best Regards / S pozdravom,

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