List, I don't know how to interpret what I read in bugzilla with regard to the disposition of: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446947 Bug 446947 was filed because KDE 4 kdesudo did not honor visudo changes. Sudo users were still prompted for a work around described in the bug. Bug 446947 was 'Resolved' by being marked as a 'Duplicate of Bug 400903' which dealt with "kdesu does not acknowledge NOPASSWD: ALL in sudoers" The closing comment was 'It is kdesu, not kdesudo' Now here is where it gets murky: Bug 400903 is closed as 'Resolved WONTFIX'. The closing comments of were "Kdesu now again defaults to using su instead of sudo because of various problems with using sudo there. You can change the default using 'kwriteconfig --file kdesurc --group super-user-command --key super-user-command sudo'." What does this mean? Does it mean the problem, regardless of whether it is with kdesu or sudo that the problem is being fixed? Does it mean that whatever the problem is, it is *not* being fixed and perplexed users are left to hopefully stumble across bug No. 400903 to find a work around? Why doesn't somebody just put a comment in the visudo file to warn users about this problem? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. | Rankin Law Firm, PLLC | Countdown for openSuSE 11.1 www.rankinlawfirm.com | http://counter.opensuse.org/11.1/small -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org