On 29/11/2007 at 09:51, in message <200711291051.13912.coolo@novell.com>, Stephan Kulow
wrote: Am Donnerstag 29 November 2007 schrieb Hans Petter Jansson: It's not just about individual users, but also about organizations that have to comply with disability laws, and the bigger publicity picture - a bullet point for the corporate types that shows that we're ahead. In the end it's one feature among others. And while it's certainly nice to have for the reasons you outline to have a distribution/installer for everyone, it's not a must have from my point of view.
Yes... From your point of view but if I may, your point of view is as someone who doesn't need to worry about how much productivity is lost because you need to get someone else from your office to help you with a basic installation of an operating system. I agree there is a lot to do, however from OpenSuSE's perspective, a lot of the gnome accessibility development is done by people in the Gnome, Orca and at-spi teams. OpenSuSE when you think of it hasn't really had to spend a lot of resources on accessibility. Making the installation and indeed yast it's self more accessible would go a long way toward making it a viable choice for a lot of users. Considering the possibilities that Yast offers, the evolution of accessibility in this tool would almost certainly make the distribution more welcomeing. With the recent advances in graphical accessibility in Linux in general, I don't believe making the OpenSuSE installer accessible would really take that much work from a developer who knew the system well. It would also pave the way for other enhancements in OpenSuSE.
As a matter of fact, as long as my wife can't install openSUSE without human
assistance I don't see it as must have for blinds to be able to do it. I would be much more worried if they couldn't use the system and that's what we should concentrate on. And if I understand Darragh correctly, there is a lot left to do. So please don't let us waste our time in things you do once as long as things in everyday's life are broken.
If this means that you would be willing to work on other areas of OpenSuSE accessibility then I would certainly welcome this advancement.
But as you said, having e.g. a magnifier should be a worthy first step.
A magnifier would still not provide eyes free access to the installation. IF you are going to work on magnifying the interface, why not take one small step further and provide the option of enabling feedback via synthesized speech for some of the more complicated parts of the installation. At the moment, I can memorise quite a lot of the parts of the installation. Example, when it lodes, I know the order of the boot menu, to choose the uk language I just press the up arrow and hit alt n for next. The main parts of the installation that I require assistance on are the timezone selection and the software and partition selector. I don't think anyone expects this problem to be solved over night however working on key stages of the installation and building the project up gradually would be better than doing nothing at all. Thanks Darragh Ó Héiligh OpenSuSE TEchnical Support. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org