The tragedy is that not only is crashing randomly on my Factory machine, but also on my 10.2 stable vanilla at home. The previous version didn't crash at all. I'm gonna install debuginfo and start running firefox from the command line, to catch the problem. I don't know why it doesn't start that Talkback thing after it crashes. Does this happen to anyone else? Worse, even, on my home machine I also had crashes of kontact, konqueror, kaffeine. KDE needs an automated crashdata collector badly! The user just has to press [Send], and not run gdb and other hard stuff. I'm going to start doing the gdb stuff myself.. and file bugs. WTF, it feels like Windows 98! And I don't think it's a hardware problem, I also run on that computer some monster games that don't have any problems running stable for hours. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org