On Friday 27 April 2007 10:00, Rajko M. wrote:
On Friday 27 April 2007 07:50, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
I'm not sure a d1{gnome,kde}-*.iso is what I'd like to see in openSUSE.
Hi Dominic,
I'm sure that I wouldn't like.
Presence of both is openSUSE advantage. That is what many describe as more polished and useful.
While I can agree with Alberto about graphic part, I don't find it primary concern.
On very basic installation either of desktops (DE) doesn't provide maximum functionality. I tried both in basic setting, and there is always something missing.
It might be good to analyze software piece by piece, that might benefit discusion to move from opinions to facts, and help both desktops to look better and be more functional.
But, who is going to start? We can't get one man to make a list of educational software that should be reviewed, which is smaller task than all of the openSUSE. How to find the one that is going to volunteer for the second?
As it is now I'm afraid that we would have problem how to name the project, not to mention how to organize collaboration.
The tool is there - openSUSE wiki, we just have to find the way to use it.
Your position on not liking two separate disk 1's understandable, however look at it from the perspective of imaging and maintaining 500 PC's (which i do) my laptops default KDE is 3.8g this is a lot of data to move with a tool like Zenworks imaging or Ghost , while on the other hand my XP image is just under 500m. It takes like 4-6 minutes to set a machine to a default config and I can do an entire school lab of 24 PC's in just a little longer. I like this because it helps make sure each room can get just what it needs. When I deliver apps as add-on images, again using Zenworks, it's much faster and easier to start with a stripped down OS and add bytes rather then run an install routine. I know my 10g hard drives are already obsolete but I'm certainly not the only battling with old hardware. In summary, if I can download a Disk1 that is a nice light productivity desktop and the associated add on media, then I can build a local install repository and have all the extra stuff in there. Now using a tool like Zenworks Snappshot I can add applications , make add-on images and customize each room and user task space with an application delivery system like Naldesk. I believe Novell is in this for the long haul and it's customers aren't the hobbiest or the soho groups normally associated with Linux. If we want openSUSE to survive we MUST think about Novell's Enterprise offerings( which it must sell to have money)and how to best integrate with them and the people that use them. Less is frequently more. -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Novell CNE 3\4\5 CLE \ NCE in training. http://en.opensuse.org/education --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org