Hi, I'm getting with this to the factory list as I don't want to bother 'regular user support' in the opensuse-ML. Everybody nowadays is talking about how much better zypper would be compared to rug/zmd. Can somebody just in short tell me where the advantage is? Ok: it does not use the zm-daemon, but this one is running quiet nice in 10.2 (didn't have to many probs yet.. or I'm not aware of them...) On the other hand, with zypper, I always have to su just to install a single package. That's something I like about rug for example: I can add a catalog as su, subscribe to it, and from there my users are allowed to grab packages. Without knowing the su password. But they are not allowed to install an rpm using rug (at least that was what my test showed me: it's ok to INstall from a subscribed catalog, but nor from a local rpm) And in overall, rug feels 'faster' for me compared to zypper. This especially as zypper, whenever I do something like zypper lu or zypper se, refreshes the catalogs. There seems to be no caching at all or it's not working for me. and this makes zypper quiet slow. rug OTOH just gives me the requested output. The fact, that an update can happen on a repo just in the time between the last refresh, is quiet low. I admit, in some cases this lead to unresolvable dependencies. So: I'm looking forward to hear some other statements, maybe corrections. Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org