One thing that I think we are currently missing is test plans for the community volunteers when doing beta testing. Sure there is a benefit having large numbers of people doing random things as well, as you want to test things that nobody thought of. But especially for new testers I think having some actual tests to run through would ensure that openSUSE testing is done consistently and I think would attract people who just need that little hand to get started with Beta testing. I have started http://en.opensuse.org/testing which is in a rudimentary state at this point. Before I go further, I have some questions about http://betatestdb.suse.de If I understand correct, it contains SUSE's own internal Beta test plans. Correct? Can these be made public? Or can interested parties be given access? Is the contents suitable to be used to create community test plans? I would like to see a range of test plans for different hardware and components on the wiki, categorised with expected time to complete. You have a spare 30 minutes, you pull up a suitable length test plan and complete it. Pflodo Peter Flodin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org