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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization
  • From: Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:38:48 +0100
  • Message-id: <20061104203848.GA17802@xxxxxxx>
Randall

You don't know the details, why we switched to newer releases of X.Org
and freetype2. And no, we will not discuss all decisions for software
updates. Especially when there are legal issues.

Best regards,
Stefan

On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 12:12:36PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Stefan,
>
> On Saturday 04 November 2006 12:00, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 10:48:02AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > Stefan,
> > >
> > > On Saturday 04 November 2006 10:15, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 09:37:50AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > > > I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies
> > > > > every couple of hours
> > > > > (<https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149>).
> > > >
> > > > Still crashing the last RPM you tried? Please comment in
> > > > bugzilla.
> > >
> > > I've replied there with all the information requested.
> >
> > Ok. Then we know which update has been responsible for the regression
> > you see on your system. Unfortunately the update contains huge
> > changes (over about 3 months git master checkins), so it won't be
> > easy to fix this issue. Therefore I can't make any promises to have
> > this fixed until final release! And going back is no option ATM.
>
> Why is going back to a stable release not an option? And how do you
> figure that a frequently bombing X server _is_ an option?
>
>
> > > > > And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have
> > > > > work-arounds for both, but they are not tenable in the long
> > > > > term since they both require running alternate versions of
> > > > > packages in place of those that are part of the distribution.
> > > >
> > > > We have
> > > >
> > > > 1) legal (*)
> > > > 2) technical
> > > >
> > > > issues with/when enabling Subpixel hinting.
> > >
> > > How is it that you have (2) when I do not by the simple expedient
> > > of rebuilding the package with the proper configuration change?
> >
> > That it works for you does not mean, that it works for all
> > fonts. Subpixel rendering is currently broken in freetype2, believe
> > me. This issue is under investigation and the feature won't be
> > enabled again until we have fixed it.
>
> Perhaps it would make more sense to adjust the schedule to the
> requirements of the software included rather than the reverse?
>
> The fact is, in both these cases you switched to new versions of
> software when those versions were inferior to the ones they replaced.
> Why do this?

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