Hello, Am Freitag, 18. August 2006 16:26 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Christian Boltz
writes: Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 17:57 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Christian Boltz
writes: BTW: Thanks for the (probably not intentional) reminder to propose a better handling for the wishlists. IMHO it's just painful to use the wiki for this...
Yes, I know, we're looking into alternatives already,
I'm glad to hear this :-)
I hope the search for alternatives will be done in the public - the community has to use it [1], so you should involve us before any decision is taken.
[1] I don't know about the SUSE internals, but I guess you don't need to add a wishlist entry if you want a package or feature ;-)
You have to - we have our own tool for this called FATE:
http://programm.froscon.de/attachments/41-SuseFeatureManagement_Froscon.pdf#...
Interesting presentation. At least I now know what that ominously FATE, mentioned in bugzilla comments from time to time, is ;-)
And most internal stuff goes through FATE.
Sorry, I don't want another tool/method for adding features, instead just use one - and hope this works out for all of us.
As far as I can see from the presentation, chances for this are good ;-) Let me try to summarize the differences compared to bugzilla - I hope this will help to understand the tool better: (please correct me if I'm wrong on some points) - a request can have multiple categories; categories can be (in bugzilla terms) a "product" or a "component", maybe (?) also other usage is possible [1] - it's XML based internally, including XQuery etc. [2] - it supports rich text (HTML-like) in comments [3] - it's possible to compare multiple revisions of a request - this implies that the request text can be changed (instead of just adding comments as in bugzilla) - two web interfaces (one with full, one with restricted view) and KDE client available In general, it looks like FATE mixes the best things of bugzilla and a wiki - sounds promising. (Is there a demo installation somewhere to test it?)
The question is how to "open" FATE in such a way that all of us can use it, it was not designed for such a large group...
Where do you see a problem? Server load? Permission handling? ...? Maybe you can provide read-only access as a first step... Regards, Christian Boltz [1] Sometimes this could be useful in bugzilla product / component also ;-) [2] There's no problem with this as long I don't have to write XSLT files for it *g* However, I'm not sure about the performance when compared with a database. [3] not sure if I really need this ;-) -- 1.-4.9.2006: Weinfest in Insheim Pig Slip, Hifi-Delity, AH-Band, Frank Petersen und die Deafen Goblins spielen bei der Landjugend. Mehr Infos: www.Landjugend-Insheim.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org