Ah,
So, Stephen is your *real* name, lol. How goes it,
Azrael???
So, RM have brought out yet another great product
(sarcastically written).
What's wrpng with using Squid and SquidGuard, along
with DansGuardian???
Works everytime for me....no trouble.
Regards,
Thomas Adam
(No Longer a VII form student at Purbeck)
--- Stephen Ogden
RM now sell a proxy server solution that uses
From: Philip Hands
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 01:26, Stephen Ogden wrote: proxy .. caching but not filtering.. unless you pay extra. They don't even give you the root password so you can install extra stuff yourself.
That's a bit poor, but I suppose they are trying to prevent people from shooting themselves in the foot.
True, all maintainance has to be done by them, or you void the warranty.. but it very nicely prevents you even seeing what software is used.. or adding your own.
I was just curious in what way this reflected the license of the GPL software they are selling.. does witholding access to your ability to modify the program count as any sort of infringement?
Well, I doubt the are withholding access in any real manner. If you have physical access, you should be able to get root, by rebooting, and either breaking in at the LILO prompt, or booting of a rescue floppy or CD. If they've made it so that you'd need to void the warranty to acheive this, then it is starting to look like they're going at least against the spirit of the GPL, if not the letter.
Yes, that's the way I see it.. it feels really dirty!
Do they provide source code for the product? If it's GPLed, in part or whole and they've not accompanied it either with the source, or with a reasonably prominent offer of the source, and idication of your right to it, then they're in breach of the GPL.
I can't say for sure, however, as you have no access to the box, who knows what software you're even getting! It is probably just standard squid. And all the source may well be available on the machine.. that you can't get into.
I did offer to get in and change the root password.. but the man in charge thought that would be a rather bad idea ... he's probably right
Cheers, Phil.
-- Azrael
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