Hi James, James Tremblay wrote
Frank, I have been trying to wrap my head around why I would want to do this. I have SLED10 with SLES10 DHCP server components (and a few more) with LTSP 4.2 as well as MANY of the educational software titles in the 10.1 repo
how did you install the stuff from SLES and 10.1? One of my goals was to do it automatically with AY.
loaded on one box. Many of us have used 10.1 packages on SLES\D with out all
Hmm, hasn't been so much work :-) Rsyncing a few directories, calling one script and starting AY isn't a lot work I guess :-)
this work. I believe, last time I checked, the SLED update channel has been maintaining all my desktop AND server packages on SLED, maybe not but, my
SLED does not contain updates for packages like "dhcp-server" and more stuff that's only on SLES (apache, tomcat etc.). We mirror the SLED update channel to our local hard disks and there are no such packages included. However, I said that I don't know if you can just add update channels for SLES and SLED with the SuSE mechanism, we just never it used because we've always been using autorpm (even for non-mixed installations). So I didn't say it was not possible :-)
If this was an edge server , which I would hope not , I would bet adding the SLES 10 dvd, the SUSE 10.1 dvd, online repo and update channels as sources to a SLED 10 box would do the same thing as all your work. To manage the updates
That's the point, you cannot add a SuSE DVD or SLES DVD to an AY installation of SLED other than I did. Because when you add a SLES DVD, it demands the installation of sles-release.rpm all and all packages of its base pattern. As SLED does the same, they conflict with sled-release.rpm vs. sles-release.rpm (and almost every other package of the base selection). So an automatic AY installation is not possible.
would simply be letting ZMD take care of the first round and your autorpm the second. While providing enough security and most importantly stability to host any internal app. If in the long run all you want from SUSE 10.1 is applications, then starting with SLED and adding the DVD's and Repo's would IMHO provide the longest term of security and broadest scope of applications
Starting with 10.1 has just historical reasons because we had all these 10.1 boxes and we distinguish between SuSE and SLES hosts in some hundred script by checking for /etc/SuSE-relase. For the next round we might indeed start with SLED 11, add SLES 11 the way I described it and add just some packages from opensuse 11.x and from repositories.
because altimitely your applications specifically any web based ones are unsecure the moment there is a fix that 10.1's update channel doesn't provide. In any senario, IMHO, the value of the channel is to keep the host
? Why that? I get all updates for 10.1, SLES and SLED. Almost no packages are from 10.1 that are not in SLED or SLES either. So if there is a security update in any of the three channels (10.1, SLES, SLED) I get it. It doesn't matter with which system you start (SuSE, SLES or SLED). You just get the newest packages from the set of all updates for all systems.
as stable and secure as possible beyond that we are all on the hook for third party security, why add the question of host stability to the mix. IMHO.
I guess I miss your point here. I don't rely on any third party security. I install only packages from SusE/SLES/SLED and fetch security updates for all of them. The moment the SuSE support for 10.1 is over, I have about 30 packages on my systems which are not in SLES or SLED for which I don't get security updates any more. That would be the same if I started with SLED, added SLES and some packages from SuSE manually. So what I've done here basically is: 1) setting up a system that can contain any packages from SLES, SDK, SLED (and SusE) 2) get all the security updates for SLES, SLED and SuSE and install what's matching 3) install this system automatically with AY. 1) can be done manually and in many ways. 2) can possibly be done with ZMD or whatever, I have no clue :-) But for 3) I found no other way than setting up the repository the way I did. I didn't claim this was a major breakthrough ;-) But throwing a SLES and a SLED DVD together for AY is a nice thing to have because it gives you the same huge package set the (open)SuSE provides, but with 5 years of updates, and it lets you install your hosts in one AY task. Not more and not less :-) cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. Bioinformatik Mail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-autoinstall+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-autoinstall+help@opensuse.org