On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Andres Silva
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Richard Brown
wrote: Hi All,
I was debating posting on the thread about regular meetings - Marcus and Bryen have successfully conveyed my feelings on the topic, but I do accept there is one thing that could be improved upon to help people contribute.
So in the spirit of my other recent mailings, here is what I consider needs to be done before 12.3 is ready, with loose priorities to explain the importance of each task, and then a few other action items which I know the community has discussed. Some of these tasks may already be in progress by others, but regardless, if you feel you can do something, do it. If you do it best, it'll end up in the distribution, if you don't, you'll end up learning from the process, and that's even better! Enough talk, we've only got a few weeks before 12.3 needs to be out of the door and right now we are way behind. Where possible, I'll be including the links to the appropriate place for the work to be committed to. Good luck, and thank you!
High Priority - The following tasks are essential and must be completed as soon as possible for 12.3 to be a successful release
1. Plymouth Branding - We've talked about ideas for this for 6 months, we no longer have time for further discussion, someone needs to put something together and get it into factory - and hopefully with enough time that we can perfect it afterwards https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3/boot/plymouth 1a. Do we still need splashed branded for people who might not be using plymouth? if so, this needs to be done too! https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3/boot/splashy
2. Grub2 branding - the rough edges in the Grub2 branding in 12.2 really earned the artwork team black marks in the eyes of many of our users, and with the exception of me, I don't think anyone on this list looked at the problem - and I was unable to resolve it without a fundamental rebranding which I considered too dramatic for a maintenance release. So lets avoid that and get Grub2 branded and in factory *now* so if similar problems appear again we can get them fixed before release this time https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3/boot/grub2
3. KDM/simpledm (KDE login screen) - Given the question about which will be the default DM/login screen for KDE, we need to make sure both KDM and simpledm are branded properly. Not getting KDM 'right' was one of our harshest complaints in 12.2, lets get that fixed - https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3/kdm
4. ksplash - Still 12.2 design in factory. Needs to be updated https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3/ksplash-qml
4. YaST branding - Still using 12.2 design in factory. Needs to be updated. https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3/yast
5. SUSEgreeter - Still using 12.2 design in factory. Needs to be updated. (Might be derived from something else as I see it in my working folder but not in github)
I do not know how to package or get sources ready for this particular package but I am working on a design mockup for it taking influences from the grow design. (Posting soon)
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/anditosan/SUSE-Greeter_zps0029edf5....
6. xfce splash - Still using 12.2 design in factory. Needs to be updated, or treated the same way as the application splash screens below. https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3/xfce
7. Application splash screens - gimp ,libreoffice, etc - the team decided that we'd no longer be branding these packages, but no one has done the following work required to make this a viable option 7a. Altering of the relevant package dependancies in OBS and/or the openSUSE default installation patterns in https://github.com/openSUSE/patterns to make sure the -opensuse branding packages are not installed for relevant applications 7b. If we're not going to keep -opensuse branding as an option then removal of the gimp parts of the opensuse-Branding package and the build process in https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/blob/12.3/Makefile and removal of the libreoffice-opensuse branding package from Factory
8. GNOME Wallpaper changing throughout the day - If we're going to use this nice GNOME feature, someone needs to make the variations for morning/night (or other time periods if they want to get really creative) and they need to be put in the appropriate place in https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3/gnome and the xml files edited as required. Alternatively 8a. Removal of the variable GNOME wallpaper from https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/blob/12.3/Makefile and appropriate changes made to the openSUSE-branding packages so GNOME has the same static default wallpaper as KDE
Medium Priority - Less important, but still needs to be looked at
1. Improvements to the grow design https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3
Currently tweaking the grow wallpaper for design proposal. (Posting soon)
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/anditosan/SUSE-Greeter_zps0029edf5....
2. Tweaking of everything accomplished already and everything above once it's done to make this version of openSUSE as pretty as possible https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/tree/12.3
3. GDM - GNOME 3's GDM is pretty much taken care of (by me) and is currently just a simple white logo ontop of the default grey+noise wallpaper every other GNOME 3 installation has - I think it actually works pretty well with our current draft of grow, but that doesn't mean it can't be improved upon if people come up with ideas. https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=gdm-branding-openSUSE&project=openSUSE%3AFactory
4. Packaging of alternative/additional wallpapers/designs and submission to openSUSE Factory. http://build.opensuse.org
5. Testing and contributing to Michaels awesome adwaitia green theme for gnome 3 and tweaking any branding to better match http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-gnome/2012-12/msg00044.html https://github.com/Catanzaro/gnome-themes-suse/
Low Priority - Probably too late to do for 12.3 but if we want it for 12.4 people probably need to start work on it now
1. If people really want to use Raster artwork as an option for core design artwork, an alternative branding makefile script to at least replicate the current functionality of the branding makefile script here will need to be made https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/blob/12.3/Makefile
2. Alternatively, improvements to the https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/blob/12.3/Makefile script to automate as much of the above outstanding work as possible would probably be a damn good thing to have done too.. it's not glamorous work, but anything to significantly reduce the amount of work to get the distro out the door would be great.
Marcus Moeller 01/01/13 10:26 AM >>>
You mentioned a few reasons why I am not that big fan of IRC meetings at all.
As Bryen lined out earlier, they might be good for on-demand topics, like: 'There is version 12.3 knocking on the door, and a few tasks left, lets talk about who will do what.'
This team is a bit special, as when it's about work, noone is there. (you have read Richards comments on that) Ppl tend to talk a lot in advance and afterwards, but noone likes to do the work. Another special thing is noone remembers on what we have decided afterwards, even if it's in the logs.
In the past (till now), there are some guys left like Ivan, tigerfoot, Richard, Victor and me who did most of the work, even if we asked for help several times (see the ML archive on that)..
As a result we have been called elitists. Thanks, but we would have prefered if PUTYOURNAMEINHERE would have helped to do the ugly work instead.
And don't expect that beginners contributions will be treated the same as from established ones. You, DuBois are a good example to show how to do it right. You are interested and asking for help.
Another way to go is to continuously contribute and improve, like Victor does.
Anyhow, this issue has been addressed to the Board, with no real consequences.
So my friendly (and not elitist) advice for anyone who is not already doing the real stuff: ask, learn, contribute, improve.
If one is asking for help in a friendly manner and not even pissing the established members off for all the work we have done, we can work it out together in the future.
Greets Marcus
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