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Re: [opensuse-factory] asterisk dropped?

by Marcus Meissner

On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 11:19:45PM +0200, Andreas Vetter wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted to install asterisk and could not find it in 10.3b3 or > factory. It's in build service. > > Why (and when) was it dropped? I miss it! It has too often security problems and is moving to fast even for the 2 year support cycle of openSUSE. It can be found in the buildservice. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] asterisk dropped?

by Hans Witvliet

On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 23:27 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 11:19:45PM +0200, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just wanted to install asterisk and could not find it in 10.3b3 or > > factory. It's in build service. > > > > Why (and when) was it dropped? I miss it! > > It has too often security problems and is moving to fast even > for the 2 year support cycle of openSUSE. Well, the 1.2 branch won't release too often any more. It's in maintenance mode. Curremt development-branch is 1.4 now... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] xen on 10.3-B3

by Hans Witvliet

Anybody on the list trying xen on 10.3-B3? Seems to be stuck. On a 10.2 DOM-0, i can run 10.1 DOM-u without any adaption. Same is not true for 10.1 DOM-U's on a 10.3-B3 DOM-0 Other shot, creating a new DOM-U from yast, seems to be hanging half-way (reding the repo afair from the top of my head) HtH, Hans --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] novell ati driver

by Greg KH

On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:29:44PM +0300, Florin Samareanu wrote: > A small offtopic question: is there a git/cvs/something repository of > this driver or is it developed internally? There will be a git tree on the x.org servers alongside all of the other X drivers. I think it should be moving there some time this week. thanks, greg k-h --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Wolfgang Rosenauer

Andreas Vetter wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Martin Schlander wrote: > >>> Can I suggest >>> >>> - Making the sun plugin conflict with the classpath webplugin. >>> - Preferably don't install the classpath version at all, if you're >>> worried about completely free java go for java 7 it would be more >>> reliable than classpath. >> I had this problem too. This was on x86_64 however, but I installed 32-bit >> firefox and sun java-plugin and had problems getting it to work until I >> figured out that I must manually remove classpath-webplugin. I thought >> classpath-webplugin was only installed by default on 64-bit installations, >> but apparently it's also done on 32-bit - it doesn't do much good anywhere - >> but on 32-bit it's extra problematic. >> >> I support Benji's proposed resolutions. > > IMO it is a mistake to release a 64 bit firefox without a really (!) > working java. Releasing a 32 bit firefox was much better in the older > distros. > Anyone opened a bug to let the plugins conflict? IMHO that's mandatory. It makes absolutely no sense to have more than one plugin installed for one type since at least all Mozilla stuff behaves non-deterministic in choosing one :-( And I agree that not having a working Java plugin is almost as bad as not having a working Flash player (which should basically work maybe only with manual interaction with nspluginwrapper though). So replacing Firefox with the 32bit version, removing classpath-webplugin and installing Sun's 32bit Java with plugin will be an FAQ :-( Wolfgang --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Andreas Vetter

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: > Andreas Vetter wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Martin Schlander wrote: > > > >>> Can I suggest > >>> > >>> - Making the sun plugin conflict with the classpath webplugin. > >>> - Preferably don't install the classpath version at all, if you're > >>> worried about completely free java go for java 7 it would be more > >>> reliable than classpath. > >> I had this problem too. This was on x86_64 however, but I installed 32-bit > >> firefox and sun java-plugin and had problems getting it to work until I > >> figured out that I must manually remove classpath-webplugin. I thought > >> classpath-webplugin was only installed by default on 64-bit installations, > >> but apparently it's also done on 32-bit - it doesn't do much good anywhere - > >> but on 32-bit it's extra problematic. > >> > >> I support Benji's proposed resolutions. > > > > IMO it is a mistake to release a 64 bit firefox without a really (!) > > working java. Releasing a 32 bit firefox was much better in the older > > distros. > > > > Anyone opened a bug to let the plugins conflict? IMHO that's mandatory. > It makes absolutely no sense to have more than one plugin installed for > one type since at least all Mozilla stuff behaves non-deterministic in > choosing one :-( > And I agree that not having a working Java plugin is almost as bad as > not having a working Flash player (which should basically work maybe > only with manual interaction with nspluginwrapper though). > > So replacing Firefox with the 32bit version, removing > classpath-webplugin and installing Sun's 32bit Java with plugin will be > an FAQ :-( I reopened [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64 to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Tel: +49 (0)931 888-5890 Universitaet Wuerzburg Fax: +49 (0)931 888-5508 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Stephan Kulow

Am Dienstag 18 September 2007 schrieb Andreas Vetter: > > I reopened > [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems > [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64 > to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system > without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes. And I disagree. If we don't make it obvious that Sun's "x86_64 is for servers only, no-one needs firefox there" is wrong, there is no chance either Sun changes that or the open source java catches up. You're free to put your money behind either side, but we took side - on the OSS side of life (with a hopefully easy way for our users to go with a NON-OSS alternative if present on that architecture). Easing the update path in adding conflicts is very fine with me though. This should be reported though. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Martin Schlander

Den Tuesday 18 September 2007 10:01:20 skrev Stephan Kulow: > Easing the update path in adding conflicts is very fine with me though. > This should be reported though. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=325912 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Andreas Vetter

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Stephan Kulow wrote: > Am Dienstag 18 September 2007 schrieb Andreas Vetter: > > > > I reopened > > [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems > > [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64 > > to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system > > without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes. > And I disagree. If we don't make it obvious that Sun's "x86_64 is for servers > only, no-one needs firefox there" is wrong, there is no chance either Sun > changes that or the open source java catches up. You're free to put your money > behind either side, but we took side - on the OSS side of life (with a > hopefully easy way for our users to go with a NON-OSS alternative if present > on that architecture). Hmm, I agree that Sun is the culprit, but I think it will fall back to openSUSE. At least we need a simple to follow guide how to get a working firefox with java (including a complaint to Sun). > Easing the update path in adding conflicts is very fine with me though. This > should be reported though. -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Inclusion of "deltarpm" in base system?

by Robin Knapp

Hi, now that delta RPMs work after bug 309124 has been fixed (I just verified this), I think the deltarpm package should be included in the 1-cd installation media, or more commonly in the minimal base system. It's quite small (<200KB), so this hopefully should not be a problem. IMHO delta rpms are a superior feature and are a huge advantage of openSUSE on slower connections, so this should work out of the box (and during installation). Maybe it also should be added to the "recommend" section of libzypp's spec file. Cheers, Robin PS.: libzypp is really great in 10.3 - even better than what I expected :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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