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Re: Slowroll and amdgpu-pro and alternatives

by Aaron Puchert

Am 04.12.23 um 11:46 schrieb Peter McD via openSUSE Factory: > I have now a fresh installation of Tumbleweed, added Patrik's repo and > installed amd-opencl. > > clinfo shows: > Number of platforms 0 > ICD loader properties > ICD loader Name OpenCL ICD Loader > ICD loader Vendor OCL Icd free software > ICD loader Version 2.3.1 > ICD loader Profile OpenCL 3.0 > > ls -l /usr/share or ls -l /etc/ > Neither in /usr/share/ nor in /etc/ is a direktory OpenCL, and so no > directory "vendors" That is strange, with [1]: $ rpm -ql amd-opencl /usr/lib64/libamdocl64.so /usr/share/OpenCL /usr/share/OpenCL/vendors /usr/share/OpenCL/vendors/amdocl64.icd /usr/share/doc/packages/rocm-ocl-icd /usr/share/doc/packages/rocm-ocl-icd/LICENSE $ cat /usr/share/OpenCL/vendors/amdocl64.icd /usr/lib64/libamdocl64.so This looks about right to me. What do you see here? Aaron [1] <https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/science:/GPU:/ROCm/openSUSE_Fact…>

11 months, 3 weeks

Re: Leap Replacement - Results from recent contributor survey

by Matěj Cepl

On Sat Sep 2, 2023 at 1:32 PM CEST, Richard Brown wrote: > > Wouldn’t no-support-free-as-in-beer-ALP (whether such thing will exist > > is another question) be effectivelly Slowroll maintained without the > > community effort? > > I don’t think so > > The lifecycle of various ALP products has not yet been locked down, but > there’s some assumptions we can consider as highly likely 1. Of course, when I said “ALP” I meant “one of products based on ALP”. 2. In the end I have replied on Reddit: Aren’t all MicroOS versions derived from Tumbleweed? Then the one thing they are missing is slowness. You wouldn’t believe how normal people (like my wife or my mother) whine when they get upgrades all the time. Most people have better things to do with their computers than to play with them (or develop with them) and they are usually really not interested in keeping their system up to the latest whims of developers. And yes, the idea of micro-host-system with flatpaks is a good one. Just make that host system slower to update (flatpaks are already too fast). Something like openSUSE/SLE Micro-based Leap? Best, Matěj -- https://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/, @mcepl@floss.social GPG Finger: 3C76 A027 CA45 AD70 98B5 BC1D 7920 5802 880B C9D8 Las cosas claras y el chocolate espeso. (Ideas should be clear and chocolate thick.) -- Spanish proverb

1 year, 2 months

Re: slowroll

by Patrick Shanahan

* Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk(a)suse.de> [09-14-23 01:08]: > On Wed, Sep 13, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Larry Len Rainey <llrainey15(a)gmail.com> [09-13-23 22:40]: > > > I gave up trying to update an old tumbleweed - it would not work - so I > > > downloaded the ISO and installed it. > > > > > > Most things worked perfectly but > > > > > > in /etc/ssh - there was no /etc/ssh/ssh_confg and no /etc/ssh/sshd_config for > > > me to change so I copied them from my tunbleweed vm. > > > > > > > because they are in /usr/etc > > if you alter them, they need to be copied to /etc/.. and altered there. > > No, because in this case, you have to manually sync distribution changes > to this file. > Why do you think we have have /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/ and /etc/ssh/ssh_config.d/? > Please put a snippet with your changed configuration optionin this > directories. Afterwards you don't need to care anymore, if we change > /usr/etc/ssh/ssh_config or /usr/etc/ssh/sshd_config > the OP did *not* have /etc/ssh/ssh*** -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

1 year, 2 months

Re: Package fstrcmp is gone from TW 20231003 - on purpose?

by Jan Engelhardt

On Thursday 2023-10-05 14:27, Manfred Hollstein wrote: >On Thu, 05 Oct 2023, 13:59:45 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: >> On Thursday 2023-10-05 13:10, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: >> >> >> >> it looks like the last Tumbleweed snapshot 20231003 removed package >> >> fstrcmp, i.e. libfstrcmp0 here; fwiw, openSUSE:Factory also doesn't >> >> contain it anymore. >> >> >> >> This package is still needed by Kodi which now shows one orphaned >> >> package. Was the removal on purpose? In that case we would have to >> >> start building it for Tumbleweed on Packman. >> > >> > Descr: fails to build and is unused >> >> The buildfailure is easy to fix (already identified to require >> groff-full), but the deletion crowd went chopping in the woods >> quicker than anything else. > >Yeah, I stored the deleted files in the devel:libraries:c_c++ project >and created a new package A_tw-fstrcmp in PMBS/Staging, which only >builds for Tumbleweed and Slowroll. You can just bring it back for openSUSE:Factory. If you set a maintainer on d:l:c/fstrcmp, you get reasonably-timed build failure reports and there is less of a chance someone swings the package axe.

1 year, 1 month

Re: vote on Slowroll name

by Martin Wilck

On Wed, 2023-09-20 at 21:29 +0200, Martin Wilck wrote: > On Wed, 2023-09-20 at 21:05 +0200, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote: > > Op woensdag 20 september 2023 20:35:48 CEST schreef Eric > > Schwarzenbach: > > > > > > I hope this survey is just a first round to weed down the > > > unweildy > > > list > > > presented there, and there will be a future round or rounds with > > > a > > > smaller > > > list, and ideally, ranked-choice voting. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Eric > > Doesn't "Interval" cover all that ? > > "Interval" sounds kind of boring to me. Sounds like math lessons or > music theory. > > I've obviously missed the first round of suggestions, but I would > suggest a name for which slow (rolling) motion has positive > associations, like "steamroller" or "caterpillar". Not quite as slow-rolling: words from the realm of horse-powered carriages: "chariot", "coldblood", "conestoga", "wheelbarrow", "vardo", "horsewagon", "oxwagon". Martin

1 year, 2 months

Re: Slowroll and amdgpu-pro and alternatives

by Peter McD

Am 29.11.23 um 08:15 schrieb Patrik Jakobsson: > On Tue, 2023-11-28 at 23:44 +0100, Peter McD wrote: >> Am 28.11.23 um 15:40 schrieb Peter McD: >>> Am 28.11.23 um 13:25 schrieb Patrik Jakobsson: >>>> On Tue, 2023-11-28 at 13:14 +0100, Peter McD wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I use Leap 15.5 a my main system because of openCL for Darktable which >>>>> simply works faster with the proprietary amdgpu-pro driver. >>>> ...> >>>> amd-opencl from AOMP should work fine with Tumbleweed. ... >> Installed and tested with an updated TW, Darktable 4.4.2 cannot find >> opencl. >> > > Can you detect the card with clinfo? first the suggested link ln -s /usr/lib64/libOpenCL.so.1 /usr/lib64/libOpenCL.so still opencl not detected by Darktable lux-tw:~ # clinfo Number of platforms 0 ICD loader properties ICD loader Name OpenCL ICD Loader ICD loader Vendor OCL Icd free software ICD loader Version 2.3.1 ICD loader Profile OpenCL 3.0 lux-tw:~ # Peter

11 months, 4 weeks

Re: Why has slowroll gone back to older kernel?

by Felix Miata

Bernhard M. Wiedemann composed on 2024-07-02 21:37 (UTC+0200): > Larry Len Rainey wrote: >> I just did a zypper dup. >> I just checked and saw this - it was vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-6.9.7-1-default : >> slowroll:~ # ll /boot | tail -5 ; date >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Jul 2 10:02 vmlinuz -> >> vmlinuz-6.9.3-1-default >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Jul 2 10:02 vmlinuz-6.9.3-1-default -> >> ../usr/lib/modules/6.9.3-1-default/vmlinuz >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Jun 15 06:55 vmlinuz-6.9.4-1-default -> >> ../usr/lib/modules/6.9.4-1-default/vmlinuz >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Jun 20 06:41 vmlinuz-6.9.5-1-default -> >> ../usr/lib/modules/6.9.5-1-default/vmlinuz >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Jul 1 06:46 vmlinuz-6.9.7-1-default -> >> ../usr/lib/modules/6.9.7-1-default/vmlinuz >> Tue Jul 2 17:42:33 CDT 202 > Looking at the timestamps, the 6.9.3 kernel was installed after the > 6.9.7 one. Maybe some dependency issues with kmps could have pulled it > in from repo-oss. > Maybe try to uninstall kernel-default-6.9.3 to see if it wants to remove > something else along it. > If that does not provide more insight, /var/log/zypp* could give > enlightement. Also, /boot/'s symlinks aren't necessarily reporting what you want to know, e.g.: # ls -lgG /boot/vmlinuz-6* /usr/lib/modules/*/vmlinuz && ls -lgGd /usr/lib/modules/* lrwxrwxrwx 1 42 Jun 28 2023 /boot/vmlinuz-6.3.9-1-default -> ../usr/lib/modules/6.3.9-1-default/vmlinuz lrwxrwxrwx 1 43 Oct 8 2023 /boot/vmlinuz-6.4.12-1-default -> ../usr/lib/modules/6.4.12-1-default/vmlinuz lrwxrwxrwx 1 42 Nov 16 2023 /boot/vmlinuz-6.5.9-1-default -> ../usr/lib/modules/6.5.9-1-default/vmlinuz lrwxrwxrwx 1 43 Jan 30 23:36 /boot/vmlinuz-6.6.11-1-default -> ../usr/lib/modules/6.6.11-1-default/vmlinuz lrwxrwxrwx 1 44 Apr 17 16:06 /boot/vmlinuz-6.6.25-1-longterm -> ../usr/lib/modules/6.6.25-1-longterm/vmlinuz lrwxrwxrwx 1 44 May 27 00:02 /boot/vmlinuz-6.6.31-1-longterm -> ../usr/lib/modules/6.6.31-1-longterm/vmlinuz -rw-r--r-- 1 14155088 Jun 24 2023 /usr/lib/modules/6.3.9-1-default/vmlinuz -rw-r--r-- 1 14287840 Aug 24 2023 /usr/lib/modules/6.4.12-1-default/vmlinuz -rw-r--r-- 1 14115440 Oct 31 2023 /usr/lib/modules/6.5.9-1-default/vmlinuz -rw-r--r-- 1 14209680 Jan 12 20:16 /usr/lib/modules/6.6.11-1-default/vmlinuz -rw-r--r-- 1 14236016 Apr 7 09:31 /usr/lib/modules/6.6.25-1-longterm/vmlinuz -rw-r--r-- 1 14248304 May 17 16:19 /usr/lib/modules/6.6.31-1-longterm/vmlinuz drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jun 28 2023 /usr/lib/modules/6.3.9-1-default drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Oct 8 2023 /usr/lib/modules/6.4.12-1-default drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Nov 16 2023 /usr/lib/modules/6.5.9-1-default drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 30 23:36 /usr/lib/modules/6.6.11-1-default drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Apr 17 16:06 /usr/lib/modules/6.6.25-1-longterm drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 May 27 00:02 /usr/lib/modules/6.6.31-1-longterm # -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

4 months, 3 weeks

Re: VOTE ON SLOWROLL NAME

by Patrick Shanahan

* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> [09-25-23 17:03]: > On 2023-09-25 21:40, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Carlos E. R. <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> [09-25-23 15:18]: > > > On 2023-09-25 20:07, Paul Lipps via openSUSE Factory wrote: > > > > This would be a great opportunity to consolidate folks on Tumbleweed. If > > > > you don’t like the frequency of updates, then simply don’t update as > > > > often. > > > > > > No, that is not a solution. There are still many updates, that is the > > > definition of "Tumbleweed is not stable". Closing your eyes to them does not > > > stop them. > > > > tumbleweed is stable, ie: doesn't constantly crash when being used. it > > doesn't even infrequently crash, I cannot recall a "crash" in the last > > year or more. > > > > nothing becomes not stable just because there are updates available. open > > your eyes and see the light. > > That is one definition of stable. > Another is "having no changes" for many moons. and there are *no* changes to tumbleweed, unless you specifically "dup" which you do not have to do. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

1 year, 2 months

Re: VOTE ON SLOWROLL NAME

by Patrick Shanahan

* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> [09-26-23 13:51]: > On 2023-09-26 19:18, Jim Henderson wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:13:46 -0500, Larry Len Rainey wrote: > > > > > You can > > > install generic desktop and select MATE desktop - No gnome - > > > no KDE much more stable than either and looks like Vista or XP > > > desktop. > > > > That wasn't my point. My point was that just because updates (or a > > desktop I don't want) *exist* doesn't mean I must install them. It is > > patently ridiculous IMNSHO to decry the very existence of updates - just > > as ridiculous as saying "I must install everything that my distro offers, > > whether I use it or not". > > Then you did not understand what I said. huh, you said that if updates exist you must install them and that makes tw unstable. no, you didn't say that you had to install everything but not much diff. the existance of something does not control you, you control you. and you do not have to dup every 10 minutes. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

1 year, 2 months

Re: Slowroll and amdgpu-pro and alternatives

by Aaron Puchert

Am 29.11.23 um 12:38 schrieb Peter McD: > Am 29.11.23 um 08:15 schrieb Patrik Jakobsson: >> Can you detect the card with clinfo? > > first the suggested link > > ln -s /usr/lib64/libOpenCL.so.1 /usr/lib64/libOpenCL.so Probably not needed, at least not for clinfo: > readelf --dynamic /usr/bin/clinfo | grep NEEDED 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libOpenCL.so.1] 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libc.so.6] The symlink should only be needed for development, and then you can find it in ocl-icd-devel. The problem seems rather that the installation isn't being found. Installations are dynamically loaded from those listed in /usr/share/OpenCL/vendors and /etc/OpenCL/vendors. Unfortunately existence of the latter precludes installations from the former directory from being recognized with the loader from ocl-icd, if nothing changed since 2020 (https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1173005) Ideally you can remove /etc/OpenCL/vendors entirely if all vendors are in /usr. If not, symlink those from /usr that you want into /etc. The files in that directory are text files containing the name of a library that should sit in /usr/lib64. Here with Mesa-libOpenCL: $ cat /usr/share/OpenCL/vendors/mesa.icd libMesaOpenCL.so.1 So in this case the implementation is in /usr/lib64/libMesaOpenCL.so.1, which will then be loaded via dlopen. If you have such a text file and the library exists, I'd suggest to run clinfo under strace. You should see it find the file, then load the library, then look up symbols. Check where it stops. Best regards, Aaron

11 months, 4 weeks

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