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Re: vote on Slowroll name

by Jacob Michalskie

On Mi, Sep 20 2023 at 14:35:48 -04:00:00, Eric Schwarzenbach <subscriber(a)blackbrook.org> wrote: > I would just like to offer some criteria to consider for choosing a > name. > > 1) Either build on the familiarity of existing names, or make the > name completely descriptive, so the name already suggests something > about what it is. "Tumbleweed-Stable" is an example of this, as is > Slowroll. Whereas something like "Descent" is only meaningful once > someone reads about it. I'm not really sure about using the existing name association. Tumbleweed is already a long name, some of the options are even longer, and with Tumbleweed we do end up with the situation that every mention of it ends up abbreviated to TW, which is not that meaningful to anyone. Using Google, searching for "Tumbleweed Linux" or "Tumbleweed OS" does show results for get.opensuse.org, while anything involving TW ends up with mentions of Twitter instead. > 2) Keep to words with positive associations, not negative. "Stable" > is a positive and really the actual goal here I think. "Slow" is only > a positive from the perspective of "Tumbleweed moves too fast". For a > new user "slow" may not sound very positive. (Nor does "sleepy", > "stumble", "sloth", etc. This survey has lots of terrible names I > wish I could vote against.) If not positive, neutral like "roll". We did stop using the word stable to describe the release cadence of Leap in the past because we do consider Tumbleweed to be a distro that is stable as well, so I would probably avoid that. Downplaying how good the other options from us are is not a good way to go about it. > 3) Don't create confusion with other distros. For example "Gecko" > appears in some of the names in the survey. There is already a > GeckoLinux (http://geckolinux.github.io/) which is a distro that is > basically an alternate installer and set of customizations of > OpenSUSE (both Tumbleweed and Leap). It's openSUSE LCP [Jake] https://lcp.world/

1 year, 2 months

Re: libvpl-tools package missing

by Terje J. Hanssen

Den 10.10.2024 07:41, skrev Simon Becherer: > > > Am 09.10.24 um 21:09 schrieb Terje J. Hanssen: >> >> >> Den 09.10.2024 20:44, skrev Manfred Hollstein: >>> On Wed, 09 Oct 2024, 20:17:36 +0200, Luigi Baldoni via openSUSE >>> Factory wrote: >>>> Terje J. Hanssen wrote: >>>>> Den 09.10.2024 09:52, skrev Luigi Baldoni via openSUSE Factory: >>>>>> Looks like "libvpl-tools" with especially "vpl-inspect" is not >>>>>> available for openSUSE. >>>>>> Is it possible to get it added? >>>>>> I packaged it and submitted it to X11:XOrg. >>>>>> Please let me know if it works as it should. >>>>>> Thanks, but could you add a Slowroll version? >>>> Try home:alois:branches:X11:XOrg/libvpl-tools >> Sorry, I have problem to find this url to download ...? > > Here it is: > > https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XOrg/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ > or: > https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/alois:/branches:/X11:/XOrg… > > > simoN Sorry, I got this installation problem: # zypper in https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/alois:/branches:/X11:/XOrg… Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: 1: nothing provides 'libcttmetrics.so.1.0.0()(64bit)' needed by the to be installed libvpl-tools-1.2.0-2.1.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install libvpl-tools-1.2.0-2.1.x86_64 Solution 2: break libvpl-tools-1.2.0-2.1.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c/d/?] (c): ----------- In advance I have the following libvpl installed: # zypper se -is libvpl Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+---------+---------+------------+--------+---------------------- i | libvpl2 | package | 2.13.0-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Slowroll-Oss Terje J. H

1 month, 2 weeks

Overview of SUSE/OpenSUSE variants?

by Michael Hamilton

One for the suggestion box: The recent news around Slowroll and the future of Leap has resulted in some curiosity from myself and others concerning how all these OpenSUSE variants relate. The following forum posts include a few attempts to diagram the relationships, as well as a jump off to a phoronix discussion: https://forums.opensuse.org/t/relationships-between-suse-opensuse-distros/1… Would it be appropriate to place some kind of outline, either text or diagram, up front somewhere like the wiki? Michael

1 year, 1 month

Re: slowroll will not install correctly from either network iso or DVD image

by Eric Schwarzenbach

On 9/19/23 15:17, Joe Salmeri wrote: > That does not explain why you are having the problem, but it seems very odd to me that Experimental:/ is NOT showing on the cd.opensuse.org site > under ALP:/ but that you can go to it directly. I don't know what technologies the site is set up with but I've seen that sort of things due to file permissions. Like x without r maybe.

1 year, 2 months

Re: Leap 16??? Why am I finding this out on Fosstodon??

by Sy retia

What happened to slowroll? Can someone just spell this out in a way that is crystal clear please? This entire thing has been extremely confusing, and everyone just wants to know what is ACTUALLY happening to Leap. Is it going to be just like ALP? Is it going to continue to be what it is now? The communication on this entire thing has been far too little; all of the people I know who use Leap are just in a state of wondering what to do next.

10 months, 1 week

Slowroll zypper dup failed to upgrade to openSUSE-releas*-20240901

by Felix Miata

From 20240803, zypper dup failed to install openSUSE-releas* due to repo priority discrepancy. I had to force install *release and *release-ftp. Content in my repos.d/ was last changed in January, so why there could be a repo priority issue I have no idea. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

2 months, 2 weeks

openSUSE Release Engineering meeting 15.11.2023

by Lubos Kocman

All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting The meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees bittin, anag, lkocman, DimStar, Adrian, Doug, bmwiedemann, guillaume_g, maxlin, Sarah, Gerald, wengel ## Leap Public holiday in Czechia on Fri 17th Dolomite and Marble will have parallel availability, we still plan to support Leap Micro 5.5 until October 2024. Let's revisit what "container hosts" we plan to make available to community. Qt5/6 stack update: Antonio was working yesterday to get stagings in SLES into a shape. Initial discussion with Sergio (Dolomite PM) a meeting tomorrow around noon CET. Max found that our last build 553.1 was not published, probably due to a download-o-o migration. I already dropped an email to Autobuild. I was really happy to see 6 openSUSE related talks on openALT in a city that's usually painted red! Calendaring solution for openSUSE is coming! ## openSUSE Tumbleweed (ana) openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 49 failed 4 unresolvable (~2-3 weeks ago: 49 failed, 33 unresolvable) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz Things slowed down this weekend because Issues with OBS publishing during the weekend. Most relevant updates this last ~ 2 weeks week: * GNOME 45.1 * libxml 2.11.5 * Linux Kernel 6.6 * binutils 2.41 * KDE Gear 23.08.3 * Mozilla Firefox 119.0.1 * postgresql 16.1 * cmake 3.27.7 * HPC stack: Dropped openmpi1, openmpi2, openmpi3. Changes to ease eventual transition to openmpi5 Updates waiting in staging: * dbus-broker as default dbus session manager * RPM 4.19 (work on going, %patch with unnumbered patches is not supported from this version on) * Lots of rubygem updates * fmt 10 (stuck since months ago because mariadb problems to build on i586) ## Richard (Aeon) Not available ## Bernhard (Slowroll) Continues to roll Slowly, sometimes has dependency problems -> need install-check *soon version bump but OBS issues Adrian: (Could you please add your concern here Adrian?) source-based Slowroll needs extra build power causes extra downloads for users switching between Tumbleweed <=> Slowroll Bernhard: three open issues in OBS bugtracker osc rdiff + osc getbinaries + building DVD with product-builder does not work with TWsnapshot+dod approach = https://github.com/openSUSE/slowroll/issues/1 https://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/issues/14994 osc branch -r release counter reset https://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/issues/15079 causes spurious "downgrades" missing build-compare causes extra publishes https://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/issues/15108 ## Max Leap 15.6 (build stats in Backports: 25 failed, 3 unresolvable) * Fixed python3-extras problem in ftp-tree, virtualization openqa test passed * Merged plasma 5.27.9 from Backports:SLE-15-SP5:Update * Submitted NonFree update from Factory NonFree * Leap has publishing issue, per DimStar, Marco will check that ## Guillaume - Arm * Tumbleweed: - Blocked after the week-end becauseof openQA: openqaworker-arm22 was broken (auto-update removed a pile of packages, including qemu!) which messed up all the Arm tests - https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/150845 - snapshot 20231114 should be out later today with kernel 6.6 - WIP to get Tumbleweed to run on Lenovo X13s. DVD boots ok, but still few bugs preventing to boot installed system from USB (ok on NVMe). * Leap 15.6/Backports SP6: - gnome-apps failing to build causes issue on most architectures: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1216184#add_comment ## Sarah - s390x * Tumbleweed * builds are successfully, but the mainframe is missing behind openQA :( https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/137408 News related to s390x: LLVM has been updated related to OpenMP for s390x lkocman: A new s390x contact on SUSE Side (Marcela Maslanova). lkocman to drop an introduction email to Sarah ## Doug * Logo contest progressing well https://en.opensuse.org/Logocontest * Vote structure set to begin on Nov. 23 and run for 2 weeks * lkocman in contact with Spencer Davis (head of brand @SUSE) regarding derivative work of the current SUSE logo. I still expect that team might submit a "contestant" on behalf of themselves. Otherwise I have a candidate based on the SUSE logo ready to submit to the contest. * Use cases survey published * Working on TSP payments with finance due international payments * Shipped marketing material * Moderator Awareness Training today * AKA session planned for Thursday at 19:00 UTC before community meeting * Phase 0 of Board elections starts - https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/… * Started ticket on emails verification issues and infra aspects heroes are experiencing - issue was fixed 2023-11-14 * Doing ESG report * Open CFPs * Creative Freedom Summit (Deadline Nov. 24) https://creativefreedomsummit.com/call-for-papers-2024-creative-freedom-sum… Static * oSC24 dates June 27 to 29 reserved (Thursday - Saturday) * FOSDEM Bus * AI topics (static) * Nothing new ## Dirk Not available * usual bunch of factory package updates, supporting python 3.12 enablement ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling Package Hub for SLE-15-SP6 ready for testing (available thru SCC) task for lkocman: The problem statement (SLES/SLED expectations) Draft to be composed here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/packagehub-problem-statement ## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u)) No issues. Internal request to add php8.1 to Package HUB. Regarding AMD issue, kernel update is scheduled for a second Tuesday of the month. https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1215802 ## Adrian - OBS Looking into the publishing issue for 15.6 ## Simon (Leap Replacement/Linarite) Not available ## Open Floor Feel free to contact Emiel Brok if you think SUSE should be at your local conference and it's not the case. Early Enablement team invited Emiel as a guest to today's team meeting.

1 year

openSUSE Release Engineering meeting 09.10.2024

by Lubos Kocman

How to join the meeting? https://calendar.opensuse.org/teams/release/events/opensuse-release-enginee… https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting ## Attendees: DimStar, lkocman, Max, DocB, Bernhard, Wolfgang, ana, GuillaumeG, ddemaio ## Leap Was on Moderation training with openSUSE moderators on Mon/Tue The Biggest news is https://news.opensuse.org/2024/10/07/leap-16-0-prealpha/ The review from the LowTechLinux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6vmC-BpfLA I did already share it with Agama folks as a feedback as large part of the video focused on Agama. Heads up for Andrii's pre-download plugin for libzypp https://github.com/openSUSE/libzypp/pull/581 Andrii: Current experimented results for performance gain on 200 - 3000 packages is 40% - 200% New branding merged in Leap 16.0 and submitted to Factory https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/cad5c72960fa (last two are still WIP) There will be some next steps for GNOME 47 and minimal desktop / IceWM. Would like to revisit openSUSE-welcome (on not just Hackweek) https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/… LinuxDays.cz - This weekend I've rrdered new stickers (New Leap Logo, Slowroll, Tumbleweed, current project logo) and updated quizzes for the conference. I'l have a Leap 16.0 talk there. I'm happy to see that there will be quite some talks done by SUSE folks. https://www.linuxdays.cz/2024/program/ openALT.cz - sponsorship thanks to OSCC. We'll have Leap 16.0 talk and a booth there too. ## openSUSE Tumbleweed (Ana) openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: ?? failed ? unresolvable (last week 47 failed, 3 unresolvable) - build ongoing https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz ( https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Factory:Rebuild shows the results when we'd use rebuild=transitive, i.e 457 failed packages) ~630 requests accepted in the last week Most relevant changes: Linux Kernel 6.11.2 Linux Kernel Longterm 6.6.54 GNOME 47 (in the next published snapshot!) Plasma 6.2.0 Qt6 6.7.3 GRUB with support for BLS (Boot Loader Specification) https://news.opensuse.org/2024/10/08/grub2-bls/ Other updates: busybox 1.37.0 ffmpeg-7 7.1 Mozilla Firefox 131.0 NetworkManager 1.50.0 nginx 1.27.2 Blocked: switching to llvm19 by default, this is OK now but it's blocked by Mesa Mesa 24.2.3 wrong colors https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1230637 longer-lasting topics Switch default LSM from AppArmor to SELinux, see https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/… QE adaption pending - https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/166613 On-going, selinux-autorelabel was merged into microos-tools, final step accepting SR#1198720 ## Richard (Aeon+botmaster) sdbootutil seems to have broken/changed its behaviour which is currently blocking installs https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231324 WIP ## Max Leap 16.0 * The setup for FactoryCandidates project is done, also adjusted fcc project management script (Refresh from Factory) ** https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Leap:16.0:FactoryCandidates * Enabled product-composer's internal installcheck, some binary package needed to be dropped from the ftp-tree * Has been switched to SLFO 1.1 as the base project but after that we got confirmation that we should use SLFO Main at this moment until 1.2(or 1.3) ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Rolling * Bug fix for GCC14 issue with LTO is on the way * Bug fixes for GRUB with support for BLS (Boot Loader Specification) for aarch64 * RPi5: RPi5 device tree is in kernel 6.12-rc2 (thanks to Andrea Porta). U-Boot already includes initial support for RPi5 in rpi_arm64 config (Thank to Ivan and Matthias). Leap 15.5: * no blocker Leap 15.6: * Problems on RPi4 with very long boot and keyboard unrecognized with latest rapsberrypi-eeprom update (update taken from TW) - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230104 Leap 16.0: * no blocker ## Sarah - s390x ## Doug * Dates reserved at Z-Bau for oSC25 from 25.06.25 to 28.06.25 * Asked for early May, but is not available * Leap 16.0 Pre-Alpha article published * Boot Loader Specification aritcle published * Moderators had training * Share "Ada & Zangemann"! movie at https://ada.fsfe.org/movie * Sharing openSUSE history with planned social media * meme post thanks both contributors and infrastructure, not just OS updates. * TSP * 20 of 28 accepted. 3 cancelled, 5 unresponsive (Unchanged from last week) * Plans to go over proposed image template for "Switch Today, Secure Tomorrow!" Info Campaign * Branding video and article (no response) * FOSDEM * 10 October - Tomorrow is the deadline for developer room proposals - https://pretalx.fosdem.org/fosdem-2025-call-for-devrooms/cfp ## Dirk Not available ## Maintenance (Marcus, Robert) Not available Chromium updates discussion ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling, Nathan Cutler Adrian: Leap 16 in SLFO:Main:Build which is supposed to be a snapshot from the standard repo. Updated by Leap crew on demand. Wolfgang is working on the Package HUB project for 16 Wolfgang is there a space to change the project name? Most people would intuitively refer to it as PackageHUB :-) I also understand that content of the project != the content of Package HUB channel. ## Adrian - OBS SLFO 1.1 branched. Created Leap 16.0 snapshot repository ## Bernhard - Slowroll Next snapshot to be released later today (aka version bump) ## Bernhard - reproducible builds making further good progress on R-B-OS ring1 and with Fridrich Strba on java sent September report to Factory ML Need to write/test rb-checkbot Potential Slowroll addition in https://github.com/openSUSE/get-o-o/pull/207 "RED" Slowroll stickers on LinuxDays.cz ## Adam - Git Workflow Not available Dirk: now updating src.opensuse.org/pool/ repos ; /rpms will be static ; DimStar: will do the switch on his side. - ported mold:core to a git project (https://src.opensuse.org/testing/_ObsPrj) Git history from OBS history can change due to mutability of user data in OBS @ home:adamm:mold:core:git - WIP on workflow-pr to move to RabbitMQ. workflow-direct is finished. ##Luna(bittin) -- Volunteer mostly on Agama these days Not available ## Open Floor

1 month, 2 weeks

Re: Slowroll kernel signing key changed to openSUSE:ALP?

by Andrei Borzenkov

On 01.10.2023 21:28, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > >> Is it possible to see build logs for packages moved from Staging to the main > > In principle, yes when you know where to look, and no rebuild happened > since then e.g. > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/bzip2 > > or > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:ALP:Experimental:Slowroll:… > This only works as long as packages are still in staging. E.g. kernel-default 6.4.12 is not.

1 year, 1 month

Re: Is it possible for Slowroll to officially support the integrity of NVidia and VMWare modules?

by Joe Salmeri

On 10/3/23 00:58, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > > We might also get some kernel-lts flavor in the future that can help > there. > > > Ciao > Bernhard M. I suggested adding a kernel-lts package several weeks ago. I hope that if it is added that it also becomes available in TW as there have been a few times for me where it would have been very useful. -- Regards, Joe

1 year, 1 month

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