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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Gregg Nicholas

> I reopened > [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems > [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64 > to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system > without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes. > > > -- > Mit freundlichen Gruessen, > Andreas Vetter I have to agree with Andreas Vetter. Firefox/java/flash should simply work, without manual intervention, on any gui installation (even x86_64). In my opinion, the decision to go with only OSS solutions - even though they don't work right - is likely to push end-users toward other distributions. Please pardon me for slipping off-topic for a minute, but I'm surprised that so many things still aren't working at this stage in the release. For example, I'm still fighting with these issues: nvidia 6800 video artifacts require frequent X restarts USB flash drives only mount for root alt-F2 commands for yast and sax2 bring up my router's web page kdetv fails even though the tuner was found during installation Whenever I install a new alpha/beta of openSUSE, it takes a couple days to get some of my favorite applications working again. Part of this time is spent removing the openSUSE versions of some applications so that I can install versions that aren't crippled (codecs and torrents). We can't expect to lure anyone away from other operating systems and distributions with a broken web browser experience and multimedia experience. ....Gregg Nicholas p.s. I've been manually installing kpodder and Miro since I haven't found a repository that includes them. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Stephan Kulow

Am Dienstag 18 September 2007 schrieb Gregg Nicholas: > > I reopened > > [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems > > [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64 > > to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system > > without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes. > > > > > > -- > > Mit freundlichen Gruessen, > > Andreas Vetter > > I have to agree with Andreas Vetter. Firefox/java/flash should simply > work, without manual intervention, on any gui installation (even x86_64). > In my opinion, the decision to go with only OSS solutions - even though > they don't work right - is likely to push end-users toward other > distributions. Can you name a distribution that has a working java on x86_64? perhaps we can check how they solved it. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Warning: Don't install kernel-<flavour>-2.6.22.5-21 from Factory

by Hans-Peter Holler

leads to panic on boot see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326099 Hans-Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Warning: Don't install kernel-<flavour>-2.6.22.5-21 from Factory

by Kenneth Schneider

On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 19:27 +0200, Hans-Peter Holler wrote: > leads to panic on boot > see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326099 > > Hans-Peter Yet one more reason to keep the old kernel around, especially when using factory. Any Novell people have a _valid_ reason not to keep the most resent kernel when upgrading? -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] after 17-SEP broken update

by Miquel A. Noguera

Hi. After 17 september broken update, I have got a lot of duplicate packages. I removed manually all them (is there another way?), except grub due to following error: atlantis:~ # rpm -qv grub grub-0.97-79 grub-0.97-80 atlantis:~ # apt-get remove grub=0.97-79 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: grub#0.97-79 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 removed and 165 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 1421kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Committing changes... Preparing... ########################################### [100%] sbin/install-info: symbol lookup error: sbin/install-info: undefined symbol: fzopen sbin/install-info: symbol lookup error: sbin/install-info: undefined symbol: fzopen error: %preun(grub-0.97-79.i586) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 Any idea to solve it? Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Warning: Don't install kernel-<flavour>-2.6.22.5-21 from Factory

by Rajko M.

On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:05, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > We should have a way to keep > the old kernel _even in an upgrade_ when testing Agree. It is all in post install script. I didn't looked in details how it works, only the part that I had problem with - not creating initrd in some cases. I know that installation (make install) after compilation from sources leaves old kernel, but is that the same script I would have to find out. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] graphics card on t61p can not be supported by opensuse 10.3

by James Li

----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Erbes" <jerbes(a)gmail.com> To: "James Li" <jamesl(a)skybilityha.com> Cc: <opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] graphics card on t61p can not be supported by opensuse 10.3 > 2007/9/18, James Li <jamesl(a)skybilityha.com>: >> I've installed nv driver and run >> >> sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia >> >> But the graphics card is recognized as "Framebuffer vesa". >> >> >> lenove thinkpad t61p's graphics cards is nvidia quadro 740m. > > Your procedure was wrong. > > The nv driver, is the opensource driver, and You do'nt need to execute > "sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia", because this parameters for sax2 are for the > propietary driver. The propietary driver appear in xorg.conf as > "nividia", and the opensource driver appear as "nv". > > For installing the propietary driver, You can download it from: > http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html > You must has installed the kernel source, and must go to init 3, and > executing the file with "sh nvidia*.run" as root. Later after > completed the nvidia script, execute "sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia" Sorry for I don't say very clear. I just installed the nvidia driver from www.nvidia.com and run "sh nvidia*.run" . And the graphics card still recognized as "Framebuffer vesa" > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org > >

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Fridrich Strba

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Kulow wrote: > Easing the update path in adding conflicts is very fine with me though. This > should be reported though. Why not to use alternatives instead? One could chose which plug-in one wants using "update-alternatives". Cheers Fridrich -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG8HUNu9a1imXPdA8RApmnAJ4jMu/o0EfvFpgXdNtj+OO02frCvQCfSryy sHFAgqfod1q/jr9IoCc1jUg= =BO1D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

by Carlos E. R.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-18 at 14:58 +0200, M9. wrote: ... > I have tried to crack mine, but only thing that happened was that the > whole network went down every time... ;-) Then, /you/ have a problem :-P But this is not the proper list to discuss it. Use the security list or the opensuse plain list, I think - unless it is 10.3 which breaks down! - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8N6xtTMYHG2NR9URAnhPAJ4qMnBbXvnMXOFZygHgqLY3/p3G8gCeMliV Zs9tiGop394Bp0FoK+otrMQ= =H47w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

by Andreas Vetter

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > >>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 6:32 PM, Martin Schlander <suse(a)linuxin.dk> wrote: > > Den Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:27:22 skrev Gregg Nicholas: > >> > I reopened > >> > [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems > >> > [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64 > >> > to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system > >> > without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes. > >> > > >> I have to agree with Andreas Vetter. Firefox/java/flash should simply > >> work, without manual intervention, on any gui installation (even x86_64). > >> In my opinion, the decision to go with only OSS solutions - even though > >> they don't work right - is likely to push end-users toward other > >> distributions. > > > > As it can be seen from my bugreports that avetter reopened I share the > > opinion > > that 32-bit Firefox should be shipped. Especially since software.opensuse.org > > > > has no "warning" about downloading the x86_64 version. > > > > However I don't think the decision has anything to do with ideology. When > > people install x86_64 they don't want 32-bit Firefox - they want to run full > > 64-bit so they can enjoy all the imaginatory performance improvements. Now we > > > > even have 64-bit OOo.. > > > > Flash works with nspluginwrapper with 64-bit Firefox - I don't know how many > > people actually come across java webapplets - personally I only need it for > > homebanking - but that of course is enough to make me install 32-bit > > Firefox - which I tested and "downgrading" ran without incident, except for > > me having to remove classpath-webplugin - and that issue will be fixed. > > I agree completely: flash works flawless with the nspluginwrapper and > Java is one of the things I never need on a website (even my bank > webinterfaces don't use it anymore). I agree, it's not very much used on newer webpages, but a lot of older stuff is in Java. Especially a lot of physics related material for our students is Java. Additionally a lot of web interfaces for hardware use Java (tape libraries, storage systems, uninteruptible power supplies, ...). > Also think about other impacts having a 32bit firefox imposes: I'm > maintaining packages of a not to be called by name Video Client, and we > offer a plugin for Firefox. Of course, when installing 64bit Video > Client, the 64bit plugin get's installed. Having a 32bit version of > Firefox forces the user also to 'downgrade' a lot of other applications. Yes that's true, that's the reason I didn't use this plugin in older suse distros. > I think such cases have to be clear for everybody: if you need Java and > you really can't live without it, go for 32bit. Yast/whatever tool and > the Documentation should offer an easy way for this. And then it should > clearly be noted that many other things might get broken. For those > users, a pure 32bit system might be better suitable then (or maybe a VM) -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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