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Re: Is slowroll broken?

by Felix Miata

Larry Len Rainey composed on 2023-09-12 21:43 (UTC-0500): > I am trying to see what slowroll is like and used this guide > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slowroll > This is what I get updating Tumbleweed: (most is in red but did not copy) Doesn't look broken from here: # zypper lr Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details) 80 (raised priority) : 2 repositories 99 (default priority) : 4 repositories # | Alias | Enabled | GPG Check | URI --+----------+---------+-----------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | FCLunst | Yes | ( p) Yes | http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-unstable-dev 2 | KDE3 | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ 3 | Non-OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/… 4 | OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/… 5 | Update | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/… 6 | openh264 | Yes | (r ) Yes | http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ # zypper ref Repository 'FCunst' is up to date. Retrieving repository 'KDE3' metadata ................................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'KDE3' cache .....................................................................................................................................[done] Repository 'Non-OSS' is up to date. Repository 'OSS' is up to date. Retrieving repository 'Update' metadata ..............................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'Update' cache ...................................................................................................................................[done] Repository 'openh264' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. # Not found on your page link or on <https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/message…> but somewhere I saw written that upgrades can be made to Slowroll from either Leap or TW, but if done from TW, it should be done from an older TW release, ostensibly, one older than the latest Slowroll release. Did you upgrade, or are you trying to upgrade? If yes, from what releasever? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

11 months, 3 weeks

Re: slowroll will not install correctly from either network iso or DVD image

by Joe Salmeri

On 9/19/23 12:40, Larry Len Rainey wrote: > > Joe > > The latest DVD iso was installed today with no network adapter and I > used Virtualbox shared clipbord to change the repos before adding any > network card. This gets past the kernel issue. > > TWSLOW:~ # zypper lr -d > # | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | > Priority | Type | URI | Service > --+--------------+--------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------- > 1 | base-non-oss | base-non-oss | Yes | ( p) Yes | No | > 99 | NONE | > http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/… > | > 2 | base-oss | base-oss | Yes | ( p) Yes | No | > 99 | NONE | > http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/… > | > 3 | base-src-oss | base-src-oss | No | ---- | ---- | > 99 | NONE | > http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/… > | > 4 | h264 | h264 | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | > 99 | rpm-md | > http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ | > 5 | packman | packman | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | > 70 | rpm-md | > http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Slowroll/Essentials/ > | > 6 | update | update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | > 80 | rpm-md | > http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/… > | > TWSLOW:~ # > > Zypper dup and Yast software get the same error: > > Trying again... > Timeout exceeded when accessing > 'http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/…'. > Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (r): > Trying again... > Timeout exceeded when accessing > 'http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/…'. > Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (a): > Trying again... > Error building the cache: > [base-non-oss|http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experiment…] > Valid metadata not found at specified URL > History: > - ABORT request: Aborting requested by user > - Can't provide > ./repodata/876557493f31abad37825b61e24c91ddc5859b8a65315e16258318341df1dcc2-appdata.xml.gz > - Timeout exceeded when accessing > 'http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/…'. > Hi Larry, One other thing, if I ping cdn.opensuse.org I get localhost:~ # ping cdn.opensuse.org PING dualstack.n.sni.global.fastly.net (151.101.45.91) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 151.101.45.91 (151.101.45.91): icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=17.9 ms 64 bytes from 151.101.45.91 (151.101.45.91): icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=20.1 ms 64 bytes from 151.101.45.91 (151.101.45.91): icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=22.4 ms Do you get the same server or a different one ? -- Regards, Joe

11 months, 2 weeks

better to change iso name to "Slowroll" to prevent confusion with Tumbleweed ...

by André Verwijs

would be better to change iso name to "Slowroll" to prevent confusion with Tumbleweed ... https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slo…

11 months, 3 weeks

slowroll: as of a few days, slowroll zypper ref, fails verfication of remomd.xml - cdn opensuse org, update slowroll repo oss

by cagsm

factory, posted on support the other day: <https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/thread/…>

4 months, 3 weeks

Re: slowroll will not install correctly from either network iso or DVD image

by Joe Salmeri

On 9/19/23 14:35, Larry Len Rainey wrote: > > Joe, > > Every site that I can go to has the same results - I have scripted to > change the http command to any location we want to try. > > TWSLOW:~ # ping -c4 download.opensuse.org > PING download.opensuse.org (195.135.221.134) 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from download.opensuse.org (195.135.221.134): icmp_seq=1 > ttl=63 time=136 ms > 64 bytes from download.opensuse.org (195.135.221.134): icmp_seq=2 > ttl=63 time=138 ms > 64 bytes from download.opensuse.org (195.135.221.134): icmp_seq=3 > ttl=63 time=140 ms > 64 bytes from download.opensuse.org (195.135.221.134): icmp_seq=4 > ttl=63 time=138 ms > > --- download.opensuse.org ping statistics --- > 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3003ms > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 136.269/138.189/139.853/1.276 ms > TWSLOW:~ # zypper lr -d > # | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | > Priority | Type | URI | Service > --+--------------+--------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------- > 1 | base-non-oss | base-non-oss | Yes | ( p) Yes | No | > 99 | NONE | > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slow… > | > 2 | base-oss | base-oss | Yes | ( p) Yes | No | > 99 | NONE | > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slow… > | > 3 | base-src-oss | base-src-oss | No | ---- | ---- | > 99 | NONE | > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slow… > | > 4 | h264 | h264 | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | > 99 | rpm-md | > http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ | > 5 | packman | packman | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | > 70 | rpm-md | > http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Slowroll/Essentials/ > | > 6 | update | update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | > 80 | rpm-md | > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slow… > | > TWSLOW:~ # zypper dup > Timeout exceeded when accessing > 'http://mirrorcache-us.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental…'. > Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (r): > > Rest delete for space > > Larry > Hi Larry, Just found something odd with the CDN servers.... Using FireFox, if I go to http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/ I only see Parent Directory Products:/ If I change the URL in Firefox to http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/ It WORKS and shows Linarite:/ Slowroll/ Slowroll:/ So the question is why isn't "Experimental:/" showing up when I go to http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/ If I do the same thing but go to http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/ Then it DOES show the "Experimental:/" folder. That does not explain why you are having the problem, but it seems very odd to me that Experimental:/ is NOT showing on the cd.opensuse.org site under ALP:/ but that you can go to it directly. Here are my repos from my SlowRoll VM zypper lr -u Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details) 70 (raised priority) : 1 repository 80 (raised priority) : 1 repository 99 (default priority) : 3 repositories # | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | URI --+--------------+--------------+---------+-----------+---------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | base-non-oss | base-non-oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | No |http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/base/repo/non-oss/ 2 | base-oss | base-oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | No |http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/base/repo/oss/ 3 | base-src-oss | base-src-oss | No | ---- | ---- |http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/base/repo/src-oss/ 4 | h264 | h264 | Yes | (r ) Yes | No |http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ 5 | packman | packman | Yes | (r ) Yes | No |http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Slowroll/Essentials/ 6 | update | update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes |http://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll/standard/ zypper refresh Repository 'base-non-oss' is up to date. Repository 'base-oss' is up to date. Repository 'h264' is up to date. Repository 'packman' is up to date. Repository 'update' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. zypper lu Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No updates found. The fact that you have the issues regardless of whether you are using the CDN servers or the normal download.opensuse.org servers makes me think that there is some sort of network issue in your local environment that could be the problem. Do you use a proxy server ? If you install a TW ISO in a VM that is connected to the network does that work successfully ? Regards, Joe

11 months, 2 weeks

Re: Leap Replacement - Results from recent contributor survey

by Michal Suchánek

On Sat, Sep 02, 2023 at 10:19:54AM +0200, Richard Brown wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been looking at the results from the recent contributor survey to > gauge the interest and feasibility of replacing openSUSE Leap with a > new community-built offering. > > For those who may not have been keeping up with the efforts, their are > proposals to build two very different distributions to replace Leap: > > "Linarite" - a regular old fashioned release desktop distribution, > likely with a narrower package selection than we're used to with Leap > unless we find significantly more contributors to be able to support > everything > > "Slowroll" - a derivative of Tumbleweed, built automatically as much as > possible, using automation and metrics to copy packages from Tumbleweed > only after certain conditions (max age, X weeks without change, etc). > Basically an attempt to provide something less scary than full speed > Tumbleweed. > > Rather than bombard everyone with all the data, I've decided to take > the approach of asking specific questions and seeing what data from the > survey best helps answer that question. > > --- > Q1: Did the survey reach a representative sample of our contributor > base? > > A: The survey received 251 responses in total, 101 from people who self > identified as a 'Contributor', either to the distributions or the > Project more broadly. 72 identified as a distribution contributor, > which is larger than the 61 people who submitted packages to Leap or > Backports for the last release. Therefore I think it's clear the survey > reached a broad enough audience to draw some meaningful conclusions > from. > > --- > Q2: Between "Linarite", "Slowroll" and not replacing Leap, which is the > most popular with our contributors? > > A: Not replacing Leap was the most popular option when distribution > contributors were asked which options would they contribute towards > (39%) > > Not replacing Leap/using Tumbleweed was the most popular option when > distribution contributors were asked which would they use on their > desktop/laptops (54%) > > Those same contributors did collectively suggest that Linarite should > be the direction of openSUSE (37%) and what they'd use on their servers > (43%) > > Q3. Between "Linarite", "Slowroll" and not replacing Leap, which is the > most popular with our users? > > Slowroll was the most popular option when users were asked which > options they'd contribute towards (28%). Linarite was 3rd (19%) after > not replacing Leap (25%) > > Slowroll was also the #1 option when users were asked which option was > the best direction for openSUSE (39%) and which would they use on a > server (48%). > > Just using Tumbleweed was also the most popular option with our users > for their desktop/laptops (41%), followed by Slowroll (36%) > > Linarite was not the #1 choice for our users in any of the questions > asked. > > Q4. Do we have enough contributors/Can we get enough contributors to > make any option work? > > 24 distribution contributors said they would contribute to Linarite > 13 said they would contribute to Slowroll > 49% said they wouldn't contribute to any Leap replacement > > 26 users said they would contribute to Linarite > 38 said they would contribute to Slowroll > 53% said they wouldn't contribute to any Leap replacement > > --- > Some thoughts/analysis > > Our users seem to overwhelmingly favour rolling releases, with > 51%-64% expressing a preference for either Tumbleweed or Slowroll > regardless of whether they're being asked if they'll use it for Server, > Desktop, or whether they'll contribute or think it's the best direction > for the project. > > This preference increases when contributors are asked, with the > preference ranging between 55%-71% depending on the question. > > In the light of these results, it is my suggestion to the community > that if we are to build something to replace Leap, then the option we > should focus on is Slowroll. > > It is the most popular with our users, and the option more closely > aligned to what our contributors use themselves. > > I also think its more important for the Leap replacement to focus on > Desktop use cases, as openSUSE will also be hosting 1:1 copies of > SUSE's ALP products. Those products should be awesome for folk who want > Enterprise-like server distros. > > Given that it seems silly to spread ourselves too thin trying to make a > Leap replacement that is both a Server and Desktop OS. > > That said though, I am still concerned that we do not have enough > contributors to make any Leap replacement viable. > > Leap has struggled even with 61 folk contributing directly to the > codebase and backports/PackageHub. And this is when we've had the SLE > codebase to borrow from, which dramatically reduced the work required. > > Either Slowroll or Linarite would require considerably more packaging > and maintenance work than Leap. Hello, why do you think that Slowroll would require more packaging effort than Leap? Just as Leap derives from SLE, Slowroll derives from Tumbleweed. I could even argue that Slowroll would require less effort when all packages come from Tumbleweed while Leap is built on top of SLE and has a large number of packages of its own. Thanks Michal

1 year

Re: vote on Slowroll name

by Felix Miata

Bernhard M. Wiedemann composed on 2023-09-20 19:09 (UTC+0200): > I setup a survey to decide if we want to rename Slowroll and to what > https://survey.opensuse.org/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=839619 > Something like "openSUSE Tumbleweed-Slowroll edition" is nicely > descriptive but a bit unwieldy. > My plan is to keep this open for some weeks - e.g. until 2023-10-08 I found one alternate that seemed like a possibility, but in the end I gave a checkmark only to Slowroll. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

11 months, 2 weeks

Re: Is slowroll broken

by Felix Miata

cagsm composed on 2024-05-09 10:53 (UTC+0200): > Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: >> > './repodata/092c3f567b7f8167f967c92f73b950d2711d141e2411cdf3dfea7ebc4c0a0ef4fe94f7a7364f90bfb6aa1a2546bab4af6e7ea3f528f3d8886309c9f2e3aaa6be-filelists-ext.xml.zst' not found on medium 'http://cdn.opensuse.org/update/slowroll/repo/oss/' > i am seeing this in the update repo of slowroll, with zst file missing > with filename beginning in hash b55f9f..... > slowroll can not zypper ref and do beyond that step. thanks. I was having that trouble last night too, until I replaced cdn in all repo URLs with download. All's been good since. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

3 months, 4 weeks

[Slowroll] Proposal for use of stable packages

by Pavin Joseph

Hi team, I propose to use stable versions of packages in Slowroll and not development versions of some packages shipped by Tumbleweed. Reasons for request: - With the recent Slowroll release "20240803" applied on Aug 10, I had some issues earlier in the day with the scaling factor set to 200% on Gnome DE, cursor was abnormally large and blurry in GTK4 apps due to shipping an unstable version of gtk4 "4.15.4" when the current stable version is "4.14.4". I also had a DE crash later in the day that prompted me to rollback to an earlier snapshot, lock the gtk4 packages and upgrade the machine. Discussion regarding the same on gnome forums [0] and openSUSE forums [1]. - Another longstanding issue [2] I've faced personally in the course of development of Emoji-Copy extension for Gnome is with the libgda package using unstable version "6.0.0" while the stable version is "5.2.3". This causes a DE crash whenever libgda is used by an extension for simple tasks such as to read its own SQLite DB. I believe the root cause of these issues stem not from Gnome packaging in openSUSE but a general packaging issue for Tumbleweed which is incompatible with stable flavors like Slowroll, i.e., the use of unstable/dev packages instead of the current stable version. Further, I believe it's a fundamentally flawed approach to push unstable/dev branches to normal end-users (anyone other than active developers). If this proposal is aligned with the goals of the Slowroll project, please let me know how I can help out. [0]: https://discourse.gnome.org/t/abnormally-large-mouse-pointer-in-gnome-apps-… [1]: https://forums.opensuse.org/t/tw-slowroll-shipping-unstable-version-of-pack… [2]: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1219970 Kind regards, Pavin Joseph.

3 weeks, 6 days

Re: [opensuse-factory] Slowroll version bump 20231001

by Felix Niederwanger

Hi Bernhard, does this indicate that likely the Kernel might become the pacemaker of Slowroll, or is this just a single occurrence? Or can't we tell yet? Best, phoenix On 02/10/23 13:51, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > Hi, > > the last (and first) Slowroll base snapshot from Tumbleweed was 20230822 > > The next one should be 20231001 if it passes openQA. > > Why? > We need to catch up with major version bumps to not diverge too much > from Tumbleweed. > E.g. there are no kernel updates anymore in the 6.4.x series and we do > not even have the latest 6.4.16 from upstream but .12 there. > > https://www.zq1.de/~bernhard/linux/opensuse/slowroll/slowroll-vs-tumbleweed… illustrates the concept of these bumps > > So far we have > 1156 pkg updates not released > 1423 pkg updates released > > So we did not stand still either and usually got the most important > (security) fixes 1-2 days after Tumbleweed. > I guess, with more elaborate event-based coding and smaller staging > projects, we could get that down to a few hours. > > Ciao > Bernhard M.

11 months

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