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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

by Carlos E. R.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-09-17 at 16:32 +0200, M9. wrote: > > By which method do you allow a new PC? For instance, if you do it based on > > the hardware address of the new wireless device, that's very easy to > > break. > > > > It is very simple in fact,a pc or laptop not listed gets no ip... Don't you bet on it for a second. A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG7pMYtTMYHG2NR9URArIjAJ9eeSIrroESGqZiEG/XaltW+92khwCbBaSV Puti7ou0+xvjkCGbgEdCAbk= =Ved5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

by M9.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. schreef: > > The Monday 2007-09-17 at 16:32 +0200, M9. wrote: > >>> By which method do you allow a new PC? For instance, if you do it based on >>> the hardware address of the new wireless device, that's very easy to >>> break. >>> >> It is very simple in fact,a pc or laptop not listed gets no ip... > > Don't you bet on it for a second. > > A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly. Well, as a matter of fact, in my case, this is not as simple as you suggest.. I live in the middle of nowhere.. Neighbours i have two, a quarter of an hour walk from me.. If you see the place, it look so ancient, that most people who visit me are very surprised that the inside is very up to date.. They did not expect to find fast ethernet, and many pc's and laptops that are very recent.. In my place there is no electricity, no gas, no water, no sewer.. Al this is selfmade, and selfcontroled. If somebody would come so close, that the wireless would pick him, i would have picked him before that, and if he/she would not come to visit me, he/she would have no business here.. ;-) Thnx for your concern ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 "release 58" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG7plnX5/X5X6LpDgRAqjyAKDPWekNI+SOjac1sLnCINbTgdXjAACgmW1Z v9tEDdBm8I1sNfdHQFL7Loc= =DTFP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

by M9.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 jdd schreef: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly. > > that is a cracker can guess your wep key (don't ask me how :-(), at the > moment lurking the net gives him the mac adresse of the various hosts. > > at the moment one of these hosts stops, he can use the mac to get an ip, > he can also share the IP (but it's probably marginally more difficult) > > the problem is: why should a cracker do this on your network? If this > was one of a big company or if your work is highly important, may be. > > may be also an evil neigbor > > I beg some sort of malfunction is more likely to happen... > > jdd I guess also, i have no valuable secrets stored on the pc's, nor am i rich. My house is not protected, there is no need, most people are to afraid to come by at night. If one would reach the house, he would stumble and fall, because there is no light, and it is full of rocks and trees. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 "release 58" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG7ppcX5/X5X6LpDgRApqsAJ401F9bbcUz8lhYgLBUju/IuNykjQCgv6ZB m9o7jsZ2Y7DXfOWrm2COSoU= =1Kym -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] asterisk dropped?

by Andreas Vetter

Hi, I just wanted to install asterisk and could not find it in 10.3b3 or factory. It's in build service. Why (and when) was it dropped? I miss it! -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Inclusion of "deltarpm" in base system?

by Stephan Kulow

Am Dienstag 18 September 2007 schrieb Robin Knapp: > > So if there's still a few KB space left, I suggest to include it. If > not... well, it's not nice but most people will be able to live with > it. Maybe 11.0? Well, there are a few KB left, but we need 172 KB, which is not my definition of few :) 734003200 is the maximum size and our latest KDE CD build is 732286976 for i386 (x86_64 is smaller as we already remove KDE4). So right now we even have over a MB free, but this changes daily so I'm not adding "few KB" right now. But it's top of my list now ;) Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Inclusion of "deltarpm" in base system?

by Robin Knapp

Zitat von Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com>: > So right now we even have over a MB free, but this changes daily so I'm not > adding "few KB" right now. But it's top of my list now ;) Ookay, well, then let's get surprised :) Robin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

17 years, 1 month

Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

by M9.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. schreef: > > The Monday 2007-09-17 at 17:03 +0200, jdd wrote: > >> Carlos E. R. wrote: > >>> A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly. >> that is a cracker can guess your wep key (don't ask me how :-(), at the moment >> lurking the net gives him the mac adresse of the various hosts. > > Yes, but he didn't say if he is using wep. My point is, that basing > security only in giving IPs to known machines, using the hardware address, > is not secure. Added to other methods, yes. > > And wep... I was told of an ISP technician that installed all routers in > his area withe keys of the "012345678901234567890xx" type, the last to > digits being related to the customer. The customers were happy because > they had a long key that was easy to remember. The crackers were even > happier. > > >> the problem is: why should a cracker do this on your network? If this was one >> of a big company or if your work is highly important, may be. > >> may be also an evil neigbor > > Or one without ISP, and just wanting to send his emails free. I have a > friend in that case. > > Somebody told me that once he tested his neighbors wifi network, and got > in easily. He then captured the traffic, and managed to learn his bank > login and password - shame on the bank for sending that in clear -. He > even tested it by entering the bank account, and exited. Obviously, that > neighbor was using windows. He said that, had he being malign, he would > have connected to the bank from a second neighbor network, and sent the > money to a third one: there would be no way to track him, and the police > would blame the second neighbor. > > > Anyway, M9 doesn't have neighbors, so he probably doesn't those problems :-) > Looking into my bank-account, he/she would probably get tears in his/her eyes, and in pity, he/she would send some money to my account ;-)) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 "release 58" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG78nqX5/X5X6LpDgRAsQbAJ9qZpjkTKNxRVLjpx2WUFlJ9kMo3QCfW4Ie lu7vs9A4096QkXlm+H+shUk= =+jk9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

by M9.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. schreef: > > The Monday 2007-09-17 at 17:12 +0200, M9. wrote: > > > You know that there are handheld gadgets that you carry in your pocket > when you have a walk and beep or buzz when they detect a wifi. I have been > told of people doing it in their cars, putting a special aerial with a > magnet on the car roof. They can use a portable computer running a certain > windows program that detects the networks it finds, and writes all that in > a report. Plus, if connected to a GPS and a map software, it plots the > findings in the map, with colors showing how "kind" are the neighbors. > > The person that told me this said that they were thinking on doing this > for their final project on university, and had a round of the industrial > park here with that setup. The findings were very /interesting/, but > refrained from making them public. > > But I had seen a similar report published in an article by the IEEE, it > wasn't news to me. > > > Not your case, but people should be way more cautious with their wifis. On > another message I wrote a sample of what damage can get done to such > trusting users. > I know this is true, because a friend of mine for years allways only uses some neighbours wifi-networks, he says that they pay for it anyway, if he uses them or not, but he only uses the internet connection, and does not intrude their networks or pc's. I have tried to crack mine, but only thing that happened was that the whole network went down every time... ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 "release 58" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG78uDX5/X5X6LpDgRAgHhAKDOgmEXVOgPcqK86vlWD6aR6Fdh7ACgpSGE zCY5QxYPBwRTFU0+bkB/E50= =mrbB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] build vs. lbuild

by Peter Czanik

Hello, I tried to compile a package using current factory sources, and ran into the following problem using lbuild: expanding package dependencies... expansion error nothing provides /lib/libreadline.so.5.2 needed by bash nothing provides /lib/libhistory.so.5.2 needed by bash and it is actually right: pegasos0917:/data/10.3/suse/ppc # rpm -qp --provides libreadline5-5.2-16.ppc.rpm bash:/lib/libreadline.so.5 readline = 5.2 libhistory.so.5 libreadline.so.5 libreadline5 = 5.2-16 On the other hand 'build' can build the package from the same spec file. It's just a lot more slow to start up, and inconvenient to use... Which one is right? And a bonus question: is it worth reporting this dependency bug, now that only critical bugs are fixed? Or belongs this to the critical category? Even if it's not in factory, It certainly makes lbuild useless, which is also used by the PackMan team... (actually, I ran into the problem by trying to recompile a packman package for 10.3 on PPC). Bye, CzP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] build vs. lbuild

by Michal Marek

Peter Czanik wrote: > Hello, > > I tried to compile a package using current factory sources, and ran into > the following problem using lbuild: > > expanding package dependencies... > expansion error > nothing provides /lib/libreadline.so.5.2 needed by bash > nothing provides /lib/libhistory.so.5.2 needed by bash > > and it is actually right: > > pegasos0917:/data/10.3/suse/ppc # rpm -qp --provides > libreadline5-5.2-16.ppc.rpm > bash:/lib/libreadline.so.5 > readline = 5.2 > libhistory.so.5 > libreadline.so.5 > libreadline5 = 5.2-16 /lib/libhistory.so.5.2 is a file dependency and _is_ provided by libreadline5.rpm: $ rpm -qlp libreadline5-5.2-16.ppc.rpm | grep -F /lib/libhistory.so.5.2 /lib/libhistory.so.5.2 > On the other hand 'build' can build the package from the same spec file. > It's just a lot more slow to start up, and inconvenient to use... Which > one is right? lbuild is wrong. build ignores file dependencies AFAIK, so in a way it's right :) Michal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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