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Re: VOTE ON SLOWROLL NAME

by Joe Salmeri

On 9/24/23 22:47, Felix Miata wrote: > Lew Wolfgang composed on 2023-09-24 19:17 (UTC-0700): > >> Robust and stable. Sequoia? But I think that name has been taken. >> Maybe another strong tree? Hickory? > Teak, very nice. But, good trees grow slowly. Slow is already in Slowroll, and I > like the nick I use locally, sslo, for filesystem LABELs and mountpoints. One the things that drive me nuts is when companies come up with names which they think are meaningful but that require users to do research to figure out what it really is. Look at the mess Intel has with their CPU names, Reaptor Lake, Alder Lake, Rocket Lake, Tiger Lake, etc. Makes it hard to know which is the latest and greatest. I don't even pay attention to the names and instead just look at the Model # which tells me which generation it is. Somone said that "SlowRoll" was less desirable because of the negativeness of "slow", how about StableRoll ? That seems to very clearly set the expectations for what it is supposed to be. -- Regards, Joe

1 year, 1 month

Re: New Slowroll update 20241030T2221 released!

by Jon Cosby

Updates for Slowroll are released daily, I can see that. When are the snapshots released? That's what I'm interested in. Jon Cosby On Wednesday, October 30th, 2024 at 3:21 PM, Bernhard Wiedemann via openSUSE Factory <factory(a)lists.opensuse.org> wrote: > > > Please note that this mail was generated by a script. > > A collection of maintenance updates was released for Slowroll. > Released 29 packages: > * VirtualGL > * containerized-data-importer > * dtc > * gap-design > * jersey > * kbd > * kubevirt > * mesheryctl > * neatvnc > * neovide > * openssl-3 > * patterns-base > * procs > * python-Werkzeug > * python-astroid > * python-astropy-iers-data > * python-bracex > * python-click-aliases > * python-coverage > * python-dill > * python-google-ai-generativelanguage > * python-isort > * python-kiwi > * python-requests > * python-zope.component > * system-user-alloy > * timoni > * tree-sitter-markdown > * yt-dlp

1 week, 1 day

Re: vote on slowroll name

by Xu Zhao

Hi all, One Tumbleweed issue I would like Slowroll to address is to add testing of the compatibility between kernel and NVIDIA close sourced driver. Currently, Tumbleweed does not guarantee this because it does not want to slow down the rolling of the latest kernel version. But maybe in Slowroll we could add some guarantee on that, among other stuff that might be in a similar situation (e.g., VMWare kernel modules). Best, Xu -- Xu Zhao i(a)xuzhao.net On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, at 8:08 AM, Larry Len Rainey wrote: > Roger > > It seems to me that the solution is to replace all the OpenSUSE repos with a private repo you control that all your customers use. That way all stay on the same version. > > When they want to do an update - they just update their repo and have their customers do an update. > > This is what you have to do to test that all is good and not broken before you update the field. and your update plan works. > > My 2 cents > > I suspect most slowroll users do not have unlimited internet or they have slow internet and cannot stand to have 1500 updates every other week. Slowroll is probably intended for them or all of them will move to some other long term stable Linux like Mint or Manjaro. > > On 9/25/23 05:32, aplanas wrote: >> On 2023-09-25 09:57, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: >> >> [...] >>> On the other hand, we have measurement systems that are not office bound >>> (road condition measurements, mobile mapping, etc). They need to be stable >>> as we can make them. And, it is not convenient to update them regularly as >>> they are in the hands of customers. So we usually choose a Leap release >> [...] >>> >>> We had toyed with using Tumbleweed in this context. Unfortunately, the >>> rolling release that I like so much on my desktop is a problem in this >>> other use context. Getting all measurement systems to have the same >>> Tumbleweed snapshot at the same time is like herding cats. As we deliver a >>> binary installer, matching library versions across independent Tumbleweed >>> versions is near impossible. Also, our current approach does not require an >>> Internet connection at any point in the system build/maintain process. >> [...] >> >> That is a super interesting problem to solve. I suspect that MicroOS can help you to develop a solution where you can control when and where to update, and minimize the ABI issues with some static compilation / container (or with more work, using a multi-release binary for each of the supported snapshots)

1 year, 1 month

Re: vote on Slowroll name

by Thomas Zimmermann

Hi Am 21.09.23 um 10:44 schrieb Christian Lanig: > Hi, > > I agree with this view below. I do not see a reason to consider "Slowroll" "slow" and to name it like something "slow" for the users. I also think that it might be considered rolling a bit haltingly, so I don't consider it necessary to have rolling in the name either. > From my perspective the release cycle is increased to 1-2 months (at least this is what I understood), and this doesn't mean something is slow in my point of view, but just having stronger periodic ticks. This is why I prefer "Pulse", but "Clockwork" or "Lighthouse" would be appealing to me as well. Yeah. As a reader of the mailing lists, it's clear to me that 'slow' refers to the frequency of updates. But to an outside observer (and potential user) 'slow' could easily imply that the OS slows down the computer. So IMHO it's better to avoid 'slow' for naming. From your list, I also like 'Lighthouse'. Best regards Thomas > If I got wrong what Slowroll actually is - based on the descriptions - feel free to correct me. > > Best regards, > Christian Lanig > > On 9/21/23 10:28, Thomas Zimmermann via openSUSE Factory wrote: >> Hi >> >> Am 20.09.23 um 19:09 schrieb Bernhard M. Wiedemann: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I setup a survey to decide if we want to rename Slowroll and to what >>> https://survey.opensuse.org/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=839619 >>> >>> Something like "openSUSE Tumbleweed-Slowroll edition" is nicely descriptive but a bit unwieldy. >>> >>> My plan is to keep this open for some weeks - e.g. until 2023-10-08 >> >> IMHO the name should suggest stability, trustworthiness and/or regularity. My suggestions: >> >> - Workhorse >> >> - Diamond >> >> - Clockwork >> >> - Halley >> >> - Full Moon >> >> Best regards >> Thomas >> >>> >>> Ciao >>> Bernhard M. >> -- Thomas Zimmermann Graphics Driver Developer SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Frankenstrasse 146, 90461 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Boudien Moerman HRB 36809 (AG Nuernberg)

1 year, 1 month

Re: slowroll will not install correctly from either network iso or DVD image

by Joe Salmeri

On 9/19/23 15:42, Larry Len Rainey wrote: > > I got it working with Felix's suggestion - it is currently updating a > 3 year old Tumbleweed that had 5.19.1 kernel and all my stuff in /home > and /root. > > TWSLOW:~ # zypper lr -d > # | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | > Priority | Type | URI | Service > --+--------------+--------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------- > 1 | base-non-oss | base-non-oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | > 99 | rpm-md | > http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/… > | > 2 | base-oss | base-oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | > 99 | rpm-md | > http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/… > | > 3 | base-src-oss | base-src-oss | No | ---- | ---- | > 99 | NONE | > http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/… > | > 4 | h264 | h264 | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | > 99 | rpm-md | > http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ | > 5 | packman | packman | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | > 70 | rpm-md | > http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Slowroll/Essentials/ > | > 6 | update | update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | > 80 | rpm-md | > http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/… > | > TWSLOW:~ # zypper ref > Repository 'base-non-oss' is up to date. > Repository 'base-oss' is up to date. > Repository 'h264' is up to date. > Repository 'packman' is up to date. > Repository 'update' is up to date. > All repositories have been refreshed. > TWSLOW:~ # > > On 9/19/23 14:17, Joe Salmeri wrote: >> The fact that you have the issues regardless of whether you are using the CDN servers or the normal download.opensuse.org servers makes me think that there is some >> sort of network issue in your local environment that could be the problem. >> >> Do you use a proxy server ?NO >> >> If you install a TW ISO in a VM that is connected to the network does that work successfully ?NO >> >> Regards, >> >> Joe Hi Larry, That's good to hear, however, I think it would still be a good idea to figure out what the problem is with using the normal cdn.o.o and download.o.o servers. -- Regards, Joe

1 year, 1 month

Re: libvpl-tools package missing

by Terje J. Hanssen

Den 10.10.2024 08:05, skrev Luigi Baldoni via openSUSE Factory: > Terje J. Hanssen wrote: >> We have already obs:multimedial:ibs and :apps and Packman repos for >> Slowroll. >> So if possible, I would be happy to see Slowroll beside Tumbleweed and >> Leap on every opensuse download page! > The way I see it, project repositories should not be used as download sources, too many library mismatches are possible. > > Just try it and if it works it will be submitted to Factory, from where it will eventually trickle down to Slowroll. > > If anything, I'm having second thoughts about that Fedora patch setting a made up soversion... Ok, thanks. I want to install it - to try it. And it shouldn't be difficult at all, but seemingly ends up in a cross dependency between libvpl-tools and libcttmetrics (And just clarify a possible misunderstanding: my previous addon-test with the LP 15.6 repo, was on LP 15.6 - not on Slowroll) The following three steps are continues on Slowroll. 1) The actual https:// repo is enabled as follows: zypper lr 4 Alias : openSUSE_Slowroll_2 Name : openSUSE_Slowroll URI : https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/alois:/branches:/X11:/XOrg… Enabled : Yes GPG Check : (r ) Yes Priority : 99 (default priority) Autorefresh : On Keep Packages : Off Type : rpm-md GPG Key URI : Path Prefix : / Parent Service : Keywords : --- Repo Info Path : /etc/zypp/repos.d/openSUSE_Slowroll_2.repo MD Cache Path : /var/cache/zypp/raw/openSUSE_Slowroll_2 2) To verify that the actual packages are found: zypper se -s libvpl-tools libcttmetrics Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+--------------------+------------+-----------+--------+------------------ | libcttmetrics1_0_0 | package | 1.2.0-2.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE_Slowroll | libvpl-tools | package | 1.2.0-2.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE_Slowroll | libvpl-tools | srcpackage | 1.2.0-2.1 | noarch | openSUSE_Slowroll | libvpl-tools-devel | package | 1.2.0-2.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE_Slowroll 3) Try to install both packages zypper in libcttmetrics1_0_0 libvpl-tools Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... 2 Problems: Problem: 1: nothing provides 'libvpl-tools-1.2.0' needed by the to be installed libcttmetrics1_0_0-1.2.0-2.1.x86_64 Problem: 2: nothing provides 'libvpl-tools-1.2.0' needed by the to be installed libcttmetrics1_0_0-1.2.0-2.1.x86_64 Problem: 1: nothing provides 'libvpl-tools-1.2.0' needed by the to be installed libcttmetrics1_0_0-1.2.0-2.1.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install libcttmetrics1_0_0-1.2.0-2.1.x86_64 Solution 2: break libcttmetrics1_0_0-1.2.0-2.1.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or skip, retry or cancel [1/2/s/r/c/d/?] (c): Do I do something wrong as 3) doesn't work?

4 weeks, 1 day

Re: Is slowroll broken?

by Dirk Müller

Hi Larry, > - Timeout exceeded when accessing 'https://cdn.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/ALP:/Experimental:/Slowroll…'. please use http:// for accessing the CDN for now. also, could you please share the output of `curl -sf http://cdn.opensuse.org/fastly_geoip` ? TIA, Dirk

1 year, 1 month

New Slowroll update 20240925T0849 released!

by bernhardout＠lsmod.de

Please note that this mail was generated by a script. A collection of maintenance updates was released for Slowroll. Released 17 packages: * bbswitch * crash * facetimehd * gasket-driver * hdjmod * mhvtl * msr-safe * nvidia-open-driver-G06-signed * pcfclock * rtl8188gu * tp_smapi * v4l2loopback * vendor-reset * vhba-kmp * xone * xpadneo * xtables-addons

1 month, 2 weeks

New Slowroll update 20240928T1107 released!

by bernhardout＠lsmod.de

Please note that this mail was generated by a script. A collection of maintenance updates was released for Slowroll. Released 13 packages: * apache-arrow * jcip-annotations * openrct2 * plplot * python-azure-cognitiveservices-language-spellcheck * python-jedi * python-proxmoxer * python-pyclipper * python-pytest-mypy-testing * python-smpplib * qgis * warzone2100 * wmenu

1 month, 1 week

New Slowroll update 20241029T0930 released!

by bernhardout＠lsmod.de

Please note that this mail was generated by a script. A collection of maintenance updates was released for Slowroll. Released 18 packages: * avfs * bbswitch * crash * dpdk * facetimehd * gasket-driver * hdjmod * msr-safe * nvidia-open-driver-G06-signed * ovpn-dco * pcfclock * rtl8188gu * tp_smapi * v4l2loopback * vendor-reset * virtualbox * xpadneo * xtables-addons

1 week, 3 days

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