More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello to all ZSystems list members, I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: - According to https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for s390x have been made available? - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why this package is built in openSUSE:Factory instead of the ZSystems-specific factory openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. Kind regards, Holger
Hi Holger, the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE. The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions. SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer. I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello to all ZSystems list members,
I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package:
- According to
https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases
the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable.
- Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for s390x have been made available?
- As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why this package is built in
openSUSE:Factory
instead of the ZSystems-specific factory
openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ?
- What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead?
Thanks for any additional info/clarifications.
Kind regards,
Holger
Hi Raphael, Neither I nor Holger are working for SUSE and we can not influence SUSE decisions as a community. Thanks for the hint with the required patch. I take a look. That can be a good reason for a bug report to receive an update. Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 18:38 Uhr Von: "Raphael Groner" <projects.rg@smart.ms> An: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> Cc: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: Aw: Aw: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de>:Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello to all ZSystems list members,
I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package:
- According to
the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable.
- Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for s390x have been made available?
- As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why this package is built in
openSUSE:Factory
instead of the ZSystems-specific factory
openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ?
- What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead?
Thanks for any additional info/clarifications.
Kind regards,
Holger
Hi Raphael, thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail. Kind regards, Holger On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de>:
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hello, Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment. Kind regards, On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de>:
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hi Nikolay, thanks for the update. It's good to know that a new release has already been taken care of. Thanks for your effort/support. Much appreciated :-) What were the reasons for moving the package the general Factory instead of leaving it in the ZSystems-specific one (openSUSE:Factory:zSystems)? Kind regards, Holger On So, 25 Aug 2024, Nikolay GUEORGUIEV wrote:
Hello,
Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment.
Kind regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de>:
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hello, Might be because that the s390-tools package has x86_64 build, too. I do not have any "influence" why it is as it is on OBS. Regards, On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 21:01 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Nikolay,
thanks for the update. It's good to know that a new release has already been taken care of. Thanks for your effort/support. Much appreciated :-)
What were the reasons for moving the package the general Factory instead of leaving it in the ZSystems-specific one (openSUSE:Factory:zSystems)?
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Nikolay GUEORGUIEV wrote:
Hello,
Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment.
Kind regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de :
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hi Nikolay, thanks - interesting to know that it's also built for x86_64. (AFAIK, this wasn't the case previously.) @Sarah: Has s390-tools ever had an x86_64 build? And is there any reason why an x86_64 build for an s390x specific package is needed (at all)? (The only reason I could think of would be tools allowing you to remotely connect to a ZSystems instance *from* an x86_64 system. In case such tools are included in s390-tools, that particular subset of the s390-tools would indeed be useful on x86_64.) Kind regards, Holger On So, 25 Aug 2024, Nikolay GUEORGUIEV wrote:
Hello,
Might be because that the s390-tools package has x86_64 build, too.
I do not have any "influence" why it is as it is on OBS.
Regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 21:01 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Nikolay,
thanks for the update. It's good to know that a new release has already been taken care of. Thanks for your effort/support. Much appreciated :-)
What were the reasons for moving the package the general Factory instead of leaving it in the ZSystems-specific one (openSUSE:Factory:zSystems)?
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Nikolay GUEORGUIEV wrote:
Hello,
Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment.
Kind regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de :
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hello together, please read in my last emails, what ExklusiveArch is doing in this Spec File. Can it be really build for x86, if there is this restriction given? And s390-tools can be only used on Mainframes. It is kernel related. Yes. But it is filtering for s390x features by IBM. Therefore, it is also IBM developed. Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 21:22 Uhr Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> An: "Nikolay GUEORGUIEV" <nikolay.gueorguiev@suse.com> Cc: "Raphael Groner" <projects.rg@smart.ms>, zsystems@lists.opensuse.org, ada.lovelace@gmx.de Betreff: Re: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hi Nikolay,
thanks - interesting to know that it's also built for x86_64. (AFAIK, this wasn't the case previously.)
@Sarah: Has s390-tools ever had an x86_64 build? And is there any reason why an x86_64 build for an s390x specific package is needed (at all)? (The only reason I could think of would be tools allowing you to remotely connect to a ZSystems instance *from* an x86_64 system. In case such tools are included in s390-tools, that particular subset of the s390-tools would indeed be useful on x86_64.)
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Nikolay GUEORGUIEV wrote:
Hello,
Might be because that the s390-tools package has x86_64 build, too.
I do not have any "influence" why it is as it is on OBS.
Regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 21:01 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Nikolay,
thanks for the update. It's good to know that a new release has already been taken care of. Thanks for your effort/support. Much appreciated :-)
What were the reasons for moving the package the general Factory instead of leaving it in the ZSystems-specific one (openSUSE:Factory:zSystems)?
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Nikolay GUEORGUIEV wrote:
Hello,
Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment.
Kind regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de :
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hi Nikolay, Thank you for the hint wirh the bug. Can you give us the link to the openSUSE Bugzilla, that we can keep also an eye on it, please? Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 20:40 Uhr Von: "Nikolay GUEORGUIEV" <nikolay.gueorguiev@suse.com> An: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> Cc: "Raphael Groner" <projects.rg@smart.ms>, zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: Re: Aw: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello,
Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment.
Kind regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de>:
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hello, Please refer to the .spec file in - https://build.opensuse.org/projects/Base:System/packages/s390-tools/files/s3... It is a failed build. If you walk through the .spec file you could find *ExclusiveArch: s390x x86_64*, plus the build for x86_64 (Search at the end of the spec file). The ticket I have created is SUSE bugzilla ticket, not openSUSE. Please refer the corresponding github issue - https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/issues/173 There is another issue with 2.34, too - https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/issues/174 Regards, On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 9:02 AM Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi Nikolay,
Thank you for the hint wirh the bug. Can you give us the link to the openSUSE Bugzilla, that we can keep also an eye on it, please?
Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 20:40 Uhr Von: "Nikolay GUEORGUIEV" <nikolay.gueorguiev@suse.com> An: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> Cc: "Raphael Groner" <projects.rg@smart.ms>, zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: Re: Aw: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello,
Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment.
Kind regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de :
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hello, I have submitted s390-tools (with the Rust patch) for acceptance in the Factory. Regards, On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 9:21 AM Nikolay GUEORGUIEV < nikolay.gueorguiev@suse.com> wrote:
Hello,
Please refer to the .spec file in - https://build.opensuse.org/projects/Base:System/packages/s390-tools/files/s3... It is a failed build. If you walk through the .spec file you could find *ExclusiveArch: s390x x86_64*, plus the build for x86_64 (Search at the end of the spec file).
The ticket I have created is SUSE bugzilla ticket, not openSUSE. Please refer the corresponding github issue - https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/issues/173 There is another issue with 2.34, too - https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/issues/174
Regards,
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 9:02 AM Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi Nikolay,
Thank you for the hint wirh the bug. Can you give us the link to the openSUSE Bugzilla, that we can keep also an eye on it, please?
Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 20:40 Uhr Von: "Nikolay GUEORGUIEV" <nikolay.gueorguiev@suse.com> An: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> Cc: "Raphael Groner" <projects.rg@smart.ms>, zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: Re: Aw: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello,
Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment.
Kind regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de :
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hi Nikolay, thanks for your effort! Much appreciated! Kind regards, Holger On Mo, 26 Aug 2024, Nikolay GUEORGUIEV wrote:
Hello,
I have submitted s390-tools (with the Rust patch) for acceptance in the Factory.
Regards,
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 9:21 AM Nikolay GUEORGUIEV < nikolay.gueorguiev@suse.com> wrote:
Hello,
Please refer to the .spec file in - https://build.opensuse.org/projects/Base:System/packages/s390-tools/files/s3... It is a failed build. If you walk through the .spec file you could find *ExclusiveArch: s390x x86_64*, plus the build for x86_64 (Search at the end of the spec file).
The ticket I have created is SUSE bugzilla ticket, not openSUSE. Please refer the corresponding github issue - https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/issues/173 There is another issue with 2.34, too - https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/issues/174
Regards,
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 9:02 AM Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi Nikolay,
Thank you for the hint wirh the bug. Can you give us the link to the openSUSE Bugzilla, that we can keep also an eye on it, please?
Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 20:40 Uhr Von: "Nikolay GUEORGUIEV" <nikolay.gueorguiev@suse.com> An: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> Cc: "Raphael Groner" <projects.rg@smart.ms>, zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: Re: Aw: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello,
Currently, I am in process upgrading s390-tools to 2.34 on Factory. There is a Rust compilation error during the build process. IBM are working on patch to fix the issue. There is workaround suggested by IBM for the moment.
Kind regards,
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 20:26 Holger Rauch <holger.rauch@posteo.de> wrote:
Hi Raphael,
thanks for the hint regarding Fedora. Will have to look into the particular patch in more detail.
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Raphael Groner wrote:
Hi Holger,
FTR in Fedora, rebased successfully about two weeks ago. Be aware there has been an interim patch needed for prior version 2.33.1 but don't ask me for reason maybe Dan as maintainer knows better.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2302462
Regards Raphael
P. S. Reception from mailing list does work now for me, finally. Thanks again to Christian for the fix.
Am 25.08.24, 18:00 schrieb Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de :
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr > Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> > An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org > Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed > > Hello to all ZSystems list members, > > I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package: > > - According to > > https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases > > the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended > specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on > Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable. > > - Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been > upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for > s390x have been made available? > > - As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why > this package is built in > > openSUSE:Factory > > instead of the ZSystems-specific factory > > openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ? > > - What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its > current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead? > > Thanks for any additional info/clarifications. > > Kind regards, > > Holger >
Hi Sarah, thanks for your quick reply. Unless I severely misunderstand the general Factory (which is for *more than just one* architecture), I'm quite sure, s390-tools should've continued to be in its original, s390x-specific factory (as the package quite clearly is only intended for and required on s390x). => It probably makes sense to ask the new maintainer for the reasons about the move to the general Factory As for the kernel: You mention SUSE only. So, yes, for other (previous) SUSE releases (15.5, 15.6) this is certainly true. But for *Tumbleweed* specifically, the current line of kernel releases is 6.10. (Otherwise, we wouldn't have gotten the update to 6.10) (Apart from that, I assume newer releases of s390-tools are also backwards compatible (read: they should also work with older, previously released kernels.) Kind regards, Holger On So, 25 Aug 2024, Sarah Julia Kriesch wrote:
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello to all ZSystems list members,
I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package:
- According to
https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases
the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable.
- Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for s390x have been made available?
- As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why this package is built in
openSUSE:Factory
instead of the ZSystems-specific factory
openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ?
- What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead?
Thanks for any additional info/clarifications.
Kind regards,
Holger
Hi Holger, the new Maintainer has added a "ExclusiveArch: s390x" into the Spec file. Then the build is running only for this specific architecture s390x. "ExcludeArch:" would exclude architectures within Factory. Therefore, the usage of ExclusiveArch is the alternative option to submitting directly in openSUSE:Factory:zSystems. The new Maintainer Nicolay does not prefer any contact with us. The also fixes only critical bugs in Tumbleweed. I can only recommend to not try to communicate with him. He does not want to be responsible for Tumbleweed. Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. August 2024 um 20:24 Uhr Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> An: "Sarah Julia Kriesch" <ada.lovelace@gmx.de> Cc: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: Re: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hi Sarah,
thanks for your quick reply. Unless I severely misunderstand the general Factory (which is for *more than just one* architecture), I'm quite sure, s390-tools should've continued to be in its original, s390x-specific factory (as the package quite clearly is only intended for and required on s390x).
=> It probably makes sense to ask the new maintainer for the reasons about the move to the general Factory
As for the kernel: You mention SUSE only. So, yes, for other (previous) SUSE releases (15.5, 15.6) this is certainly true. But for *Tumbleweed* specifically, the current line of kernel releases is 6.10. (Otherwise, we wouldn't have gotten the update to 6.10)
(Apart from that, I assume newer releases of s390-tools are also backwards compatible (read: they should also work with older, previously released kernels.)
Kind regards,
Holger
On So, 25 Aug 2024, Sarah Julia Kriesch wrote:
Hi Holger,
the package was in openSUSE zSystems in the past, but was changed to openSUSE Factory by the new Maintainer at SUSE.
The old package maintainer had also the required permissions to review and submit to openSUSE zSystems. I don't know, why the new Maintainer does not want to have any contact to us and therefore did not ask for the permissions.
SUSE is using an older kernel. Therefore, s390-tools are not on the top priority list by the new Maintainer.
I hope that makes the reasons clear. Best regards, Sarah
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 25.08.2024 um 17:46 Uhr Von: "Holger Rauch" <holger.rauch@posteo.de> An: zsystems@lists.opensuse.org Betreff: More Recent Version For s390-tools (2.31 => 2.34) on Tumbleweed
Hello to all ZSystems list members,
I've got a few questions concerning the s390-tools package:
- According to
https://github.com/ibm-s390-linux/s390-tools/releases
the most current release would be 2.34, which is also intended specifically for 6.10 kernels. As 6.10 kernels are the current ones on Tumbleweed for s390x, an upgrade seems reasonable.
- Are there any technical reasons why the package release hasn't been upgraded since February this year, despite the fact that newer kernels for s390x have been made available?
- As this package is intended for the base system of s390x only, I wonder why this package is built in
openSUSE:Factory
instead of the ZSystems-specific factory
openSUSE:Factory:zSystems ?
- What would be possible reasons for NOT upgrading this package to its current release 2.34 and stay with the current one 2.31 instead?
Thanks for any additional info/clarifications.
Kind regards,
Holger
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