[yast-devel] YaST feedback/selling point on reddit/openSUSE
Hi, there is a discussion about what is so special about YaST: https://old.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/dsni1k/what_is_so_special_about_y... ciao Arvin -- Arvin Schnell, <aschnell@suse.com> Senior Software Engineer, Research & Development SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks Arvin, very interesting. It seems people mainly see YaST as a tool for configuring a running system. Nobody comments about YaST as installer. That surprises me. Maybe installation process is not that important for regular user? Iván On 11/11/19 9:15 AM, Arvin Schnell wrote:
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On 11/11/19 1:47 PM, José Iván López González wrote:
Yes, that's the difference between bugzilla/jira driven feedback vs forum/blog driven feedback. If you look at all the bug reports and feature requests we get, they are 90% about fixing/improving/extending the installation. But in all public discussions I have seen in forums and similar places about why openSUSE rocks, the focus is always in YaST as a configuration tool for a running system.
Maybe installation process is not that important for regular user?
That's a possible conclusion. Being creative you could also say the reason is that YaST is already almost perfect as a configuration tool (so people don't feel impelled to ask for extensions or fixes) but it still needs improvements as a installer. Just joking. Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 14:15, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa <ancor@suse.de> wrote:
Keep in mind, in the running system, YaST is labeled as YaST. In the installation process, YaST is only labeled as YaST when it shows an error or a help dialog. It's just easy to miss the fact that YaST is YaST when it's not labeled as YaST most of the time. LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
Dne 11. 11. 19 v 14:19 Stasiek Michalski napsal(a):
Exactly, if you check the current SLE and openSUSE installation screens you'll find that "YaST" is not mentioned anywhere. Moreover the installer has a completely different styling (logos in the top header, dark theme in SLE, left pane in openSUSE) so it really looks like a different application. -- Ladislav Slezák YaST Developer SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. Corso IIa Křižíkova 148/34 18600 Praha 8 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
More feedback [1]. Still we can find people thinking that YaST is great!! [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKidnt7WC3s On 11/12/19 12:38 PM, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
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Thanks Arvin, very interesting. It seems people mainly see YaST as a tool for configuring a running system. Nobody comments about YaST as installer. That surprises me. Maybe installation process is not that important for regular user? Iván On 11/11/19 9:15 AM, Arvin Schnell wrote:
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On 11/11/19 1:47 PM, José Iván López González wrote:
Yes, that's the difference between bugzilla/jira driven feedback vs forum/blog driven feedback. If you look at all the bug reports and feature requests we get, they are 90% about fixing/improving/extending the installation. But in all public discussions I have seen in forums and similar places about why openSUSE rocks, the focus is always in YaST as a configuration tool for a running system.
Maybe installation process is not that important for regular user?
That's a possible conclusion. Being creative you could also say the reason is that YaST is already almost perfect as a configuration tool (so people don't feel impelled to ask for extensions or fixes) but it still needs improvements as a installer. Just joking. Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 14:15, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa <ancor@suse.de> wrote:
Keep in mind, in the running system, YaST is labeled as YaST. In the installation process, YaST is only labeled as YaST when it shows an error or a help dialog. It's just easy to miss the fact that YaST is YaST when it's not labeled as YaST most of the time. LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
Dne 11. 11. 19 v 14:19 Stasiek Michalski napsal(a):
Exactly, if you check the current SLE and openSUSE installation screens you'll find that "YaST" is not mentioned anywhere. Moreover the installer has a completely different styling (logos in the top header, dark theme in SLE, left pane in openSUSE) so it really looks like a different application. -- Ladislav Slezák YaST Developer SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. Corso IIa Křižíkova 148/34 18600 Praha 8 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
More feedback [1]. Still we can find people thinking that YaST is great!! [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKidnt7WC3s On 11/12/19 12:38 PM, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
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Stasiek Michalski