[yast-devel] YaST feedback/selling point on reddit/openSUSE
Hi, there is a discussion about what is so special about YaST: https://old.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/dsni1k/what_is_so_special_about_y... ciao Arvin -- Arvin Schnell, <aschnell@suse.com> Senior Software Engineer, Research & Development SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks Arvin, very interesting. It seems people mainly see YaST as a tool for configuring a running system. Nobody comments about YaST as installer. That surprises me. Maybe installation process is not that important for regular user? Iván On 11/11/19 9:15 AM, Arvin Schnell wrote:
Hi,
there is a discussion about what is so special about YaST:
https://old.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/dsni1k/what_is_so_special_about_y...
ciao Arvin
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On 11/11/19 1:47 PM, José Iván López González wrote:
Thanks Arvin, very interesting.
It seems people mainly see YaST as a tool for configuring a running system. Nobody comments about YaST as installer. That surprises me.
Yes, that's the difference between bugzilla/jira driven feedback vs forum/blog driven feedback. If you look at all the bug reports and feature requests we get, they are 90% about fixing/improving/extending the installation. But in all public discussions I have seen in forums and similar places about why openSUSE rocks, the focus is always in YaST as a configuration tool for a running system.
Maybe installation process is not that important for regular user?
That's a possible conclusion. Being creative you could also say the reason is that YaST is already almost perfect as a configuration tool (so people don't feel impelled to ask for extensions or fixes) but it still needs improvements as a installer. Just joking. Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 14:15, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa <ancor@suse.de> wrote:
But in all public discussions I have seen in forums and similar places about why openSUSE rocks, the focus is always in YaST as a configuration tool for a running system.
Keep in mind, in the running system, YaST is labeled as YaST. In the installation process, YaST is only labeled as YaST when it shows an error or a help dialog. It's just easy to miss the fact that YaST is YaST when it's not labeled as YaST most of the time. LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
Dne 11. 11. 19 v 14:19 Stasiek Michalski napsal(a):
Keep in mind, in the running system, YaST is labeled as YaST. In the installation process, YaST is only labeled as YaST when it shows an error or a help dialog. It's just easy to miss the fact that YaST is YaST when it's not labeled as YaST most of the time.
Exactly, if you check the current SLE and openSUSE installation screens you'll find that "YaST" is not mentioned anywhere. Moreover the installer has a completely different styling (logos in the top header, dark theme in SLE, left pane in openSUSE) so it really looks like a different application. -- Ladislav Slezák YaST Developer SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. Corso IIa Křižíkova 148/34 18600 Praha 8 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
More feedback [1]. Still we can find people thinking that YaST is great!! [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKidnt7WC3s On 11/12/19 12:38 PM, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
Dne 11. 11. 19 v 14:19 Stasiek Michalski napsal(a):
Keep in mind, in the running system, YaST is labeled as YaST. In the installation process, YaST is only labeled as YaST when it shows an error or a help dialog. It's just easy to miss the fact that YaST is YaST when it's not labeled as YaST most of the time.
Exactly, if you check the current SLE and openSUSE installation screens you'll find that "YaST" is not mentioned anywhere.
Moreover the installer has a completely different styling (logos in the top header, dark theme in SLE, left pane in openSUSE) so it really looks like a different application.
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Stasiek Michalski