[yast-devel] Redesign of yast.github.io
See attached screenshot with the first draft of the redesign made by Ken Wimer for http://yast.github.io/ It looks much nicer and more modern and it also makes obvious that we need to discuss something about the website's target audience and, thus, the best information structure. Originally it was targeted to developers (with the idea of keeping the user oriented information in the openSUSE wiki). 90% of the content was in the "get involved" page. Even the "modules" section was intended to be specially useful for developers. The front page was there just because we needed one. :-) But then we started to add more "sales" content into the front page, blurring the target a little bit. It's not that bad because is still clear that everything under the "get involved" section is targeted to developers (or contributors in general). In the layout proposed by Ken (it's just a draft), the subsections targeted to developers "getting started", "development documentation" and "processes and guidelines" are at the same level than the rest. It makes sense to make the information more visible at a first glance, not hiding 90% of the content behind the "get involved" link, but in my opinion that also means that we should change the front page content and style to make obvious that it's a developer's portal, not a product page. Unless we want it to be both things (I don't think it makes much sense for us, I would stick to developers as only target). I will meet with Ken to discuss next steps, so I'd like to hear everybody's opinion. Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH
On 4.11.2014 15:29, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
See attached screenshot with the first draft of the redesign made by Ken Wimer for http://yast.github.io/
It looks much nicer and more modern and it also makes obvious that we need to discuss something about the website's target audience and, thus, the best information structure.
Originally it was targeted to developers (with the idea of keeping the user oriented information in the openSUSE wiki). 90% of the content was in the "get involved" page. Even the "modules" section was intended to be specially useful for developers. The front page was there just because we needed one. :-)
I'd keep the target audience. Yast IRC channel is for Yast developers. Yast GitHub page should be for developers as well. We do not want to create another (Yast) support channel. Having all at the same level is a good step IMO.
But then we started to add more "sales" content into the front page, blurring the target a little bit. It's not that bad because is still clear that everything under the "get involved" section is targeted to developers (or contributors in general).
That's fine, we need to sell Yast. And good UI sells it better than just text.
In the layout proposed by Ken (it's just a draft), the subsections targeted to developers "getting started", "development documentation" and "processes and guidelines" are at the same level than the rest. It makes sense to make the information more visible at a first glance, not hiding 90% of the content behind the "get involved" link, but in my opinion that also means that we should change the front page content and style to make obvious that it's a developer's portal, not a product page. Unless we want it to be both things (I don't think it makes much sense for us, I would stick to developers as only target).
Just one thing: Yet another Setup Tool? Oh, what a name! Sadly, we have inherited this from the fathers of `90s. Er, one another: I'd add a note about how to contribute to Yast landing page itself -> link to the project? Thanks for taking care Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, Systems Management (Yast) Team Leader Cloud & Systems Management Department, SUSE Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 03:47:27PM +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Just one thing: Yet another Setup Tool? Oh, what a name! Sadly, we have inherited this from the fathers of `90s.
I think we should not spell out the original meaning, just as SUSE does not stand for the original German words today. -- Martin Vidner, Cloud & Systems Management Team http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu
On 11/04/2014 03:29 PM, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
See attached screenshot with the first draft of the redesign made by Ken Wimer for http://yast.github.io/
Just an update on the progress. Here you are 2 screenshots for the new design. One in a PC screen and the other one in a mobile device (yeah, we are going responsive!). http://paste.opensuse.org/14763684 http://paste.opensuse.org/87343226 The content will change to be more developers-oriented (without loosing the catchy headlines and the salesman general tone), in order to make clear that it's a portal for technical contributors, but the design and layout is already close to definitive. Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On 7.11.2014 12:54, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
On 11/04/2014 03:29 PM, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
See attached screenshot with the first draft of the redesign made by Ken Wimer for http://yast.github.io/
Just an update on the progress. Here you are 2 screenshots for the new design. One in a PC screen and the other one in a mobile device (yeah, we are going responsive!). http://paste.opensuse.org/14763684 http://paste.opensuse.org/87343226
Hmm, it still contains those old screenshots and AutoYast is missing.
The content will change to be more developers-oriented (without loosing the catchy headlines and the salesman general tone), in order to make clear that it's a portal for technical contributors, but the design and layout is already close to definitive.
It's at GitHub, so I'd be actually expecting the developer-oriented pages. Thanks Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, Systems Management (Yast) Team Leader Cloud & Systems Management Department, SUSE Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
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