[yast-devel] yast-gtk interface
Hi there, Currently, yast-gtk looks similar to GtkAssistant (old GnomeDruid) used by Evolution, the Gnome Add printer tool, etc. However, Yast doesn't act as a wizard sometimes, and just as a hybrid mosttimes. So, Jakub Steiner has proposed cleaning it up to this very simplistic form (to match the other Gnome tools from the control panel): http://www.alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt/~c0607045/trash/yast/face-mockup.svg Since we are at it, we might just as well think of the installer. I thought of this: http://www.alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt/~c0607045/trash/yast/installer-mockup.svg It seems unlikely to have -gtk adopted as the installer any time soon (or late :)), but it might still be nice to have something more fancy that people could activate for their normal use. These are SVG, very easy to edit on Inkscape. Notice we can provide optional faces. Cheers, Ricardo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:08:54PM +0100, Ricardo Cruz wrote:
Hi there,
Currently, yast-gtk looks similar to GtkAssistant (old GnomeDruid) used by Evolution, the Gnome Add printer tool, etc. However, Yast doesn't act as a wizard sometimes, and just as a hybrid mosttimes. So, Jakub Steiner has proposed cleaning it up to this very simplistic form (to match the other Gnome tools from the control panel): http://www.alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt/~c0607045/trash/yast/face-mockup.svg
Hi Ricardo, er, an empty list box with [Help] and [Next] does not tell me much. Please elaborate a bit. Bear in mind that the inside of the dialogs is mostly determined by the YCP code, so any style change is difficult here. On the other hand, we are aware of the basic style differences between KDE and GNOME and plan to adapt the basic UI libraries (Popup.ycp Wizard.ycp) to accomodate eg. for the differing OK-Cancel button positioning.
Since we are at it, we might just as well think of the installer. I thought of this: http://www.alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt/~c0607045/trash/yast/installer-mockup.svg
It seems unlikely to have -gtk adopted as the installer any time soon (or late :)), but it might still be nice to have something more fancy that people could activate for their normal use.
About y2gtk for installation... I guess that in the YaST team we do not have anyone interested enough to push it ourselves, but I would be glad to help with answers and contacts if you or anyone wants to drive it.
These are SVG, very easy to edit on Inkscape. Notice we can provide optional faces.
Faces? You mean skins, themes? (BTW Konqueror can view SVG fine) -- Martin Vidner, YaST developer http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help@opensuse.org
Qua, 2007-05-09 às 13:25 +0200, Martin Vidner escreveu:
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:08:54PM +0100, Ricardo Cruz wrote:
Hi there,
Currently, yast-gtk looks similar to GtkAssistant (old GnomeDruid) used by Evolution, the Gnome Add printer tool, etc. However, Yast doesn't act as a wizard sometimes, and just as a hybrid mosttimes. So, Jakub Steiner has proposed cleaning it up to this very simplistic form (to match the other Gnome tools from the control panel): http://www.alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt/~c0607045/trash/yast/face-mockup.svg
Hi Ricardo,
er, an empty list box with [Help] and [Next] does not tell me much. Please elaborate a bit.
Ah, okay. So, currently yast-gtk face follows that of GtkAssistant: http://www.alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt/~c0607045/trash/yast/printer-wizards.png The suggestion was to get rid of the header (title and icon at top), the line drawing, and align the "containee" to the buttons, to make it look like the other Gnome setup tools. That label/list is just for sketch purposes; it represent whatever module is being setup-ed.
These are SVG, very easy to edit on Inkscape. Notice we can provide optional faces.
Faces? You mean skins, themes?
Okay, those might be better terms. :) We use a customized widget for the wizard, so we can easily offer different layouts and drawings (via an argument or a key shortcut). We can offer the change to be at run-time as GTK+ allows an easy way to do so.
(BTW Konqueror can view SVG fine)
But it probably can't edit them, can it? :) Inkscape was just a suggestion for anyone that may want to touch the mockups; rendering of SVGs (at least basic ones) is pretty widely supported by now. I might even allow for a SVG skin if GTK's Cairo renderer was better in terms of performance. It uses some system library for the rendering, so it needs to re-parse the SVG file at every resize, and needs to allocate a bunch of memory for the pixmap. Qt4 (and probably KSVG) just parse the SVG into a queue of QPainter commands that simply get flushed as needed (should be near to the efficiency as if you issued the drawing commands in C++). Cheers, Ricardo
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It seems unlikely to have -gtk adopted as the installer any time soon (or late :)), but it might still be nice to have something more fancy that people could activate for their normal use.
About y2gtk for installation... I guess that in the YaST team we do not have anyone interested enough to push it ourselves, but I would be glad to help with answers and contacts if you or anyone wants to drive it.
http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Manager_Redesign yast's sw_single will still be the expert package manager, but we're planning on a whole new experience for standard user "application" management that's totally community driven. If you're interested in piping in, drop by the meeting in #opensuse-project on freenode this Saturday. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help@opensuse.org
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