[yast-devel] controlling X/GUI/QT mode of HTTP installation started via HD/Grub (no F3 available)
No manual entry for linuxrc. Where is the documentation for linuxrc to be found? I don't see anything on https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc about this, or digging into the files in .../loader/. When using installation media, NET or DVD, F3 allows to choose a mode, but how can one choose a lower than EDID-preferred mode when starting installation using Grub to load linux and initrd on machines with no boot from removable media option, or just avoid unnecessary downloading of files to be obsoleted within hours or days? Video= works only for the ttys, not the GUI. Including sax2=1 (and sax3=1) on cmdline changes nothing, at least through the first partitioning screen, by which time already to much has happened in mousetype. Seems like message and gfxboot.cfg maybe need to get loaded locally as well, but if so, how? Something else also, instead? Info= looks like a way, but where's the doc that says what can go in it or how to format its contents. Clicking the link in its section just loops back to Parameter Reference near the top of the page. I tried making one and putting PreferredMode=1024x768 in it, but it had no effect. :-( -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
* Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> [08-02-14 20:28]:
No manual entry for linuxrc. Where is the documentation for linuxrc to be found?
w3m `locate linuxrc` /usr/share/doc/packages/autoyast2/html/appendix.linuxrc.html -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-08-02 23:01 (GMT-0400) Patrick Shanahan composed:
* Felix Miata composed:
No manual entry for linuxrc. Where is the documentation for linuxrc to be found?
w3m `locate linuxrc`
w3m is not something I recall ever hearing about before,...
/usr/share/doc/packages/autoyast2/html/appendix.linuxrc.html
...but very nice to know about. That file's autoyast2 owner wasn't installed, so it wasn't there for my mc find file to find. :-p NAICT from going through all of /usr/share/doc/packages/autoyast2/html/, I'm not sure a favorable answer to $SUBJECT is even in there. The Monitor and X11 Configuration section 4.14 includes this: "Since openSUSE 11.2 there is not AutoYaST client for X11 configuration anymore. You can still have the X11 section in your profile but it will be ignored." Even if it still worked, it's an awfully complicated thing to figure out just to acquire legibility. In Anaconda (latest at least), the installer's X mode obeys the cmdline parameter video=, which one would think openSUSE could reasonably do as well. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, Felix Miata wrote:
No manual entry for linuxrc. Where is the documentation for linuxrc to be found?
I don't see anything on https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc about this, or digging into the files in .../loader/. When using installation media, NET or DVD, F3 allows to choose a mode, but how can one choose a lower than EDID-preferred mode when starting installation using Grub to load linux and initrd on machines with no boot from removable media option, or just avoid unnecessary downloading of files to be obsoleted within hours or days?
Video= works only for the ttys, not the GUI. Including sax2=1 (and sax3=1) on
In fact, you currently can't influence the video mode (without a-priory knowledge of the driver that's going to be used). Steffen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-08-04 15:00 (GMT+0200) Steffen Winterfeldt composed:
In fact, you currently can't influence the video mode (without a-priory knowledge of the driver that's going to be used).
You mean via cmdline? Cmdline can feed parameters to YaST/linuxrc, correct? Couldn't at least in theory a brief info file be used to provide an EDID override (aka user's personal PreferredMode) for starting X, if not something simpler like xservermode.radeon=1024x768? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
В Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:00:05 +0200 (CEST) Steffen Winterfeldt <snwint@suse.de> пишет:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, Felix Miata wrote:
No manual entry for linuxrc. Where is the documentation for linuxrc to be found?
I don't see anything on https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc about this, or digging into the files in .../loader/. When using installation media, NET or DVD, F3 allows to choose a mode, but how can one choose a lower than EDID-preferred mode when starting installation using Grub to load linux and initrd on machines with no boot from removable media option, or just avoid unnecessary downloading of files to be obsoleted within hours or days?
Video= works only for the ttys, not the GUI. Including sax2=1 (and sax3=1) on
In fact, you currently can't influence the video mode (without a-priory knowledge of the driver that's going to be used).
I think this statement need some qualification a) without KMS it is possible - just select video mode during boot (or explicitly pass vga=...) and X server will respect this setting b) with KMS it is possible to set Linux console frame buffer video mode using video=NxM option. But the problem here is, X server ignores it and always selects some "best fit" resolution. So the real question probably is - is it possible to make X server respect currently chosen console resolution? If it is not possible - is it possible to force fbdev X driver during installation? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
В Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:00:05 +0200 (CEST) Steffen Winterfeldt <snwint@suse.de> пишет:
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In fact, you currently can't influence the video mode (without a-priory knowledge of the driver that's going to be used).
I think this statement need some qualification
a) without KMS it is possible - just select video mode during boot (or explicitly pass vga=...) and X server will respect this setting
b) with KMS it is possible to set Linux console frame buffer video mode using video=NxM option. But the problem here is, X server ignores it and always selects some "best fit" resolution.
So the real question probably is - is it possible to make X server respect currently chosen console resolution? If it is not possible - is it possible to force fbdev X driver during installation?
There is in fact a bug open that the boot loader video mode menu should work again. But it's really not that simple and I've dropped the issue for now. For some nice state-of-the-art mode setting follow Takashi's comments in https://bugzilla.novell.com/853350. Sure, with enough knowledge about the hardware and some kernel parameters you can probably force the mode you like. But - then what? Do you want to keep the mode forced after install or do you trust Xorg? Do you switch to a proprietary driver that maybe needs different options or suddenly just works without any? Do you care about console resolution? There's at least 3 common ways to set your video mode: vesa/uefi fb / kms / xorg. All need to be configured differently. And the little bootloader should provide and easy-to-use shortcut that fits all. :-( Steffen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org
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