Hello, On Feb 24 11:10 Vladimir Moravec wrote (excerpt):
Honestly, I'm far from being an expert in systemd
Neither am I. I falsely assumed the "systemd guys" would have known how to do "the right thing" to get systemd support for CUPS so that it actually works in our current environment (in prarticular that also YaST can manage the cupsd).
I feel that there is lack of complete information on how to control services via systemd correctly and I'm glad that you started this discussion.
I also don't know how to control services via systemd correctly.
However, I can't stop asking me the question: how managed package maintainers those systemd issues at other distros?
I do not understand the question because other distros do not use YaST as end-user frontend to manage services. When using plain systemctl it works of course also for complicated systemd units with several unit files.
In Yast the systemd support we currently have is only basic one. Once we know what the best practice in managing systemd units is, we'll implement it as needed.
This again matches perfectly my observation and accordingly it is currently exactly "the right thing" to get systemd support for a service "foo" that actually works in our current environment to provide only one single systemd unit file foo.service (and nothing else, particular no foo.socket or foo.path and so on).
yast2-services-manager is built on top of `systemctl`.
I don't know about yast2-services-manager details but I think if yast2-services-manager is basically only a GUI for systemctl then yast2-services-manager would be insufficient to be a really useful end-user frontend to manage services because plain systemctl is too low level. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH -- Maxfeldstrasse 5 -- 90409 Nuernberg -- Germany HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org