Stefan, thank you very very much for this detailed answer! I do get your point and understand you didn't just change sth. because you thought it might be a funny idea but it was a well-discussed decision. Of course that doesn't help information junkies like me, but well. You arguments about complexitiy and support for different platforms and languages etc. are reasonable. And I have to accept you won't go back for all the reasons you mentioned. So after all you said about code complexity and path duplication, let me come up with a proposal which should be easy to implement and might be at least some fallback for people like me: maybe you could add a popup or window below the progress bar that is activated by some button or sth. and just tails /var/log/YaST2/y2log with a large buffer and a vertical scrollbar. It would be hidden by default, but if people click the "view logfile" button, they would see what's going on. You might add some filter so that you only see relevant stuff. That's what I did in the end to see what's going on, I just called "ssh <server> tail -f /var/log/YaST2/y2log |grep -o 'Executing.*'" and although it gives no progress per package, it shows at least the list of packages currently installed. Better than nothing, but doing it manually with ssh for parallel installations of several hosts is a bit troublesome, so having this in the gui would be way easier. Maybe this is something worth considering? cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. Bioinformatik Mail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *