On 04.11.21, 14:24, "Imobach Gonzalez Sosa" <IGonzalezSosa@suse.com<mailto:IGonzalezSosa@suse.com>> wrote: El jue, 04-11-2021 a las 13:58 +0100, shundhammer escribió: [..] Yikes. That will make tracking down problems completely impossible; for us as well as for users. This is not a good idea IMHO. As a user, I want to get a general idea what's going on. More often than not, it's some specific packages that take forever to install; some post-install script building a kernel module, for example. Not having any information about that is a huge step backwards IMHO. To be honest, usually that information goes too fast, so it is nearly impossible for me to find something useful there. And, if something goes wrong, I would expect YaST to notify me about the problem.
It contains release notes that contain useful information
For some, maybe. Certainly not for everybody. I usually find release notes quite useful. If release notes are informative and well-written, and think it might be a good idea.
and also has just one progress bar. For that bar remove keep always just remaining size and count of packages, so user has idea how it does,
That is much too coarse IMHO. +1 to Josef proposal. We could add "remaining time" information but only if it is kind of accurate. If it is going from 5 minutes, to half and hour to 1 minute again, then it is better not to show anything. IMHO this is the best opportunity to get rid of that slideshow for good. It has been in zombie state for many years, yet it was always in the way. Yes, please, let's get rid of it. [..] Thinking a little bit further, would it make sense to unify the packages installation progress and the finish clients screen into a single one? After all, we could display a message below the progress bar ("installing packages", "installing the bootloader", etc.). What do you think? I think that the real use-cases are: 1) to know that the installer is still doing something and not dead. 2) to know how far along the installer is, and how much is left Maybe showing a percentage and the current main steps (as Imo suggest above) would be better? The real problem is that we cannot guess how long the whole thing takes. Currently we are providing every possible detail to somehow fill that gap and I don’t think it’s making anything better, but rather worse. -- Ken