On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 09:21 +0100, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
Let's move to yast-devel.
Dňa Wednesday 28 November 2007 04:23:55 Hans Petter Jansson ste napísal:
The GNOME team set up a wiki page for 11.0 ideas. One of the requests is for accessibility options to be available in the YaST installer, in particular:
* Screen magnifier - shows a magnified version of the portion of the screen you're pointing at.
* Screen reader - reads the labels and input text out loud.
* Braille output - provides tactile display of labels and input text via a special device.
In GNOME, we use Orca to accomplish this, together with the at-spi infrastructure. It is a Python app. I don't know what Qt/KDE uses, but I imagine something similar.
So I have some questions for the YaST/installer guys:
* What accessibility technologies are available in the installer today, and how are they configured?
AFAIK, we have support for visually impaired people: - linuxrc can be run in linemode to allow screen readers - yast2 ncurses interface has high contrast color scheme available - there is support for braille peripherials
* If we're missing accessibility functionality, how feasible would it be to implement it for 11.0?
Depends on the technology. One constraint I see right away is the size of of inst-sys, we would need to do some magic there to keep it reasonably sized.
First, we would need to know exactly what we want to support. The 3 points above?
Stano
If I can jump in here. the above 3 are representative of real-life examples we have encountered recently. - One person identified needing sound output, and thus required someone else to install openSuse before he could use it. He is in this business professionally. - Myself, I need some level of magnification. I can get by with what I can see today, but as my vision worsens... I may not be able to provide technical support for my customers without magnification built into the installer. Personally, with all the technology today, I don't want the computer to be the one thing that keeps me from continuing to work. :-) - In the opensuse general mailing list, there was a newcomer who stated he used a braille terminal and was having difficulty installing openSuse. He disappeared after that one night, so I don't know whether he was successful or not. My guess is, since we haven't heard from him, probably not. Unfortunately, I don't know braille nor do I own a braille terminal, so it isn't something I can test out for functionality. In fact, AFAICT, building these features into the installer would probably make Yast the most accessible installer the world has ever seen. If a magnifier is not that simple to integrate (I don't know my way around coding), perhaps some built in hot key to expand text? Like CTRL +Arrow-up key expands fonts, and CTRL+Arrow-dn key shrinks fonts. There's enough white space in many of the installer pages to accommodate text expansion. Although, I still think a mouse-based magnifier is a more elegant solution. I should emphasize that magnification isn't just an accessibility need. Sometimes normal-sighted people need magnification as well. I've seen on some monitors, the installer fonts are sooo tiny that a hot-key magnification would be greatly appreciated. Just wanted to offer you guys some perspective here.. :) -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help@opensuse.org