On Aug 08, 06 17:57:35 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 08.08.2006, 16:15 +0200 schrieb Matthias Hopf:
On Aug 07, 06 13:57:36 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:
thats a pity, because the Compiz-Quinn-packages are the best, most stable, fastest and feature-richest versions of compiz/xgl.
Not to my experience. Yes, they include some experimental features. No, they are not really faster (how could that be, given that compiz almost needs no user space time at all). No, they are less stable. Stability is the most important issue for us.
when i began using 10.1 i setup some installation-sources which i found in http://repos.opensuse.org/ i setup everything which seemed usefull for me. one of them was http://repos.opensuse.org/Compiz-Quinn/
these days the versions of xgl/compiz (from 10.1 and factory) i used didn't work very well. in fact they didn't work at all on my intel-mainboard-chipset-graphics-card i855g.
In contrast on this year's LinuxTag almost all issues about Xgl/compiz not working was due to old Gentoo / Debian / Quinn packages. This surely is not Quinn's fault, though.
and some new features are really very usefull: 1. the new theme-engine, where the window-decorations can be tweaked
This is unnecessary, as the window decorator is an own process. The right solution would be to change the window decorator / create a different one.
2. the built-in window-decorator, which is easier to control and faster-starting than the extra program gnome-window-decorator (which i had to start extra as a kde-user)
Wrong approach. The window decorator has to link against an external widget library, which should *not* be part of compiz, so compiz can be built desktop agnostic. OTOH this really could be done in an in a plugin (in contrast to an external program, but David had reasons to do so), but AFAIK the built-in decorator changes stuff in compiz all over the place.
3. the control-icon on the desktop, from where you can configure, configure themes, restart and stop compiz.
Why do you want to restart compiz?
4. some nice new plugins and effects.
Haven't looked at them lately, though so far they have not been sent to the compiz mailing list as plugin patches (which would be the obvious way to include them). Some patches had been rejected by David due to architectural issues, though.
and since i use the Compiz-Quinn-packages compiz never froze/crashed.
That's good for you. In that case you should continue to use them (never change a running system), but we cannot estimate stability from a single user's experience.
Who is cyberorg?
a guy who communicates with compiz-users on the forum http://www.compiz.net/topic-119-1.html i really don't know if he is the developer behind Compiz-Quinn-packages, but he has something to do with the release of the Compiz-Quinn-packages.
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