On 2012/06/26 04:38 (GMT-0400) Stefan Dirsch composed:
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 22:50 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I've been doing only minimal installs of Factory lately. I also set solver.onlyRequires=true and use only zypper for package management.
Hmm. Looking for trouble?
Isn't that what using milestones, betas & Factory are about? :-) I'm looking for some more particular trouble than those who do default installs, like deps that shouldn't be, and that should. By-products are quicker zypper dups, and smaller / partitions required. Besides, if I didn't choose to install something, odds are if it's broken, and I try to use it, I wouldn't recognize a problem exists.
Today I notice on such an rv380 installation that I had incompletely installed Xorg even though KDE 4.8.4 works using startx, but KDM didn't, and still doesn't for reasons unknown to me.
In trying to get KDM to work I noticed xorg-x11 hadn't been installed, so I did zypper in xorg-x11. That resulted in 4 packages to install, including twm and xdm.
xorg-x11 has become a meta package to collect all required and possibly useful X sample apps like
xdm, xmodmap, ...
Why on a system with kdm already installed are twm and xdm required?
xdm scripts are used by kdm
Is this an upstream "feature"?
twm is still used as a fallback by the xdm init script.
That I have noticed on occasion, and usually find that it starts instead of a KDE session (that won't start because something's broken or missing) annoying. Meanwhile I have one B2 system on which "init 5/telinit 5" instantly returns zilch and no new Xorg.0.log, while startx works fine. I may just make that my next target of a fresh install instead of trying to figure out why. :-p -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xorg+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xorg+owner@opensuse.org