First obstacle (overcome via 'chmod 777 /var/log'): no write permission for normal users to /var/log makes writing /var/log/Xorg.1.log fail. Why did this happen? Is it expected behavior? Second obstacle: $SUBJECT. Root can do it, but ordinary user cannot. 12.3 log: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xorg.1.log-gx150-os123-asuserfails 13.1 log: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xorg.1.log-big41-os131-asuserfails /etc/permissions.local has /usr/bin/Xorg root:root 4711 uncommented. /dev/tty0 is crw--w----. That doesn't seem right, but it's same as in 11.4, where this failure does not occur. So what needs fixing to enable second user, while first user has logged in via gdm/kdm/xdm, to login on tty[1-6], then open an X session as in the past, like still works in Mageia 3 and Fedora 19? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xorg+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xorg+owner@opensuse.org